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  • [Deleted User]
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  • chiarieds
    chiarieds Community Member Posts: 17,413 Championing

    @Passerby - there's no harm in including your WCA report, tho UC & PIP are completely different benefits, so only if you think it's relevant to your PIP claim.

    The most important info is that you provide yourself as your GP doesn't see you dress, bathe or budget etc. PIP rarely get in touch with your GP/consultants. Your diagnoses won't be in any doubt & remember that PIP is looking at your functional ability to 'reliably' do any of the applicable descriptors. PIP is also about how you are the majority of days, so try & indicate how often you have difficulty with these PIP activities.

    I think it's sometimes useful to keep a diary for a week or so as sometimes we're so used to how we manage some daily living activities that we don't always realise that we can struggle to complete them.

    This is very useful, & please do look at the 'reliability' section as it's very important: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/personal-independence-payment-assessment-guide-for-assessment-providers/pip-assessment-guide-part-2-the-assessment-criteria

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  • lincsgranny
    lincsgranny Community Member Posts: 201 Empowering

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzVVWWtEiIM&pp=ygULZHluYW1pYyBkdW8%3D

  • lincsgranny
    lincsgranny Community Member Posts: 201 Empowering
  • JasonRA
    JasonRA Community Member Posts: 302 Championing
    edited June 2025

    Delete comment if possible, I mentioned Jeremy Hunt, so you can guess his opinion on cuts.

  • Holly_Scope
    Holly_Scope Posts: 6,351 Online Community Team

    Hi @JasonRA really sorry but I couldn't see the comment you wanted deleting. Would you mind sending me some information please. Thank you.

  • lincsgranny
    lincsgranny Community Member Posts: 201 Empowering

    There is so much discrimination in the way things are being done behind the scenes, yeah hoping to that they get scrapped till proper look into how the impact will affect so many vulnerable adults 👍

  • johnnyy85
    johnnyy85 Community Member Posts: 266 Empowering

    what happens if they pass it and the then the impact statement shows the impact we know it will, will they reverse it ?

  • lincsgranny
    lincsgranny Community Member Posts: 201 Empowering

    Hehe yeah I totally understand though I've emailed loads and any piece information that's negative that comes out I send it to them all over again I don't get replies now lol

  • lincsgranny
    lincsgranny Community Member Posts: 201 Empowering

    There is a few lawyers waiting for more details ready to fight this but need to know the parts they are hiding.

    I feel in fairness they should stop them till the government share everything if they have nothing to hide

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  • JasonRA
    JasonRA Community Member Posts: 302 Championing

    Courts have consistently ruled that policy decisions made without proper impact assessments can be unlawful, regardless of the policy's "merits", I think that is another piece of food for thought.

  • JasonRA
    JasonRA Community Member Posts: 302 Championing
    edited June 2025

    I copy and pasted an extract from a Guardian article from today. Labour will lose seats in Wales over this. Labour seem to have this wish to alienate their own voters in Labour orientated seats.

    Disability benefit cuts will affect Wales disproportionately, campaigners say. 

    The proposals, which are still at the consultation stage, would further compound poverty and exclusion for disabled people in Wales, according to the chief executive of Disability Wales, Rhian Davies.

    “It’s not just individuals who will be out of pocket, entire communities will be affected. Our survey of members showed that people are angry and terrified and some reported suicidal thoughts, which is very concerning,” she said.

    “We must address the systemic failures that keep disabled people out of work and public life before we start looking at reforming the benefits system.”

    About 900,000 people, or 27% of Wales’ population, live with a disability, according to Public Health Network Cymru – higher than the UK average of 22% – and 11% of working-age people, compared with 7% in England.

  • bellatango
    bellatango Community Member Posts: 124 Empowering
    edited June 2025

    Ministers are exploring ways to soften the blow of billions of pounds of cuts to benefits amid a major Labour revolt, The i Paper understands.

    Tweaks are being considered to the plan to save £5bn by cutting personal independence payments (PIP) for disabled people, and universal credit for those off work with sickness as up to 170 MPs threaten to rebel against the changes.

    But while ministers are holding talks with concerned MPs, they remain minded to push ahead with the policy as it is currently planned, confident that they can win the argument and win over doubters.

    Even if the Government did try and soften the welfare crackdown, The i Paper has been told that many MPs will still rebel as they want the entire plan scrapped.

    One of the changes reported to be under consideration to water down the changes is giving disability claimants a longer transition period if they are due to lose a benefit to apply for an alternative form of welfare support.

    But The i Paper understands rebels are determined to vote against the cuts when they are introduced in legislation due this month and want the money saved to be raised instead from taxing wealthy individuals.

    Rebels are also understood to be pleased with recent announcements on extending free school meals and a partial U-turn on winter fuel payment cuts, as well as signals that the two-child benefit cap could be scrapped.

    But they have privately warned that this will not be enough to get them to change their minds and back the welfare cuts, which they fear could be a political mistake on the scale of the scrapping of the universal winter fuel allowance.

    “Over 150 colleagues are refusing to back down on this issue and have signalled this to the Government and Chief Whip,” one MP said.

    “The Government needs to think again and prioritise the needs of those who are most in need.

    “These measures are a betrayal of Labour’s core values and will only exacerbate the suffering of those already struggling after 14 years of the Tories.

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    “It’s time for the Government to listen to its own MPs, put the interests of the vulnerable first and tax those with the broadest shoulders properly.”

    Rebel Labour MP Rachael Maskell said: “Disabled people are very frightened about losing vital support which enables them to live and function. 

    “Government must end the speculation and end their plans to cruelly make disabled people suffer more than they already do.  

    “Government must recognise that it got these cuts completely wrong, ditch them and move forward in ensuring we have a social security system which properly and adequately supports all in need while the health sector presses ahead to better manage those in ill health.”

  • YogiBear
    YogiBear Community Member Posts: 410 Pioneering
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    Front page of Monday's I Newspaper - 9 June 2025.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    Why doesn’t starmer explain what these other benefits are ? Is it because he means giving TP for the 5 weeks instead of 2 while waiting for uc basic to start ? But if we are unable to engage with work will we be eligible ?

  • JasonRA
    JasonRA Community Member Posts: 302 Championing
    edited June 2025

    None of this makes sense, when they scrap the wca I presume there won't be a LCW, just a binary fit for work or lcwra/pip so what other benefits are there to claim?

    It's going to be a disaster if this passes, a chaotic disaster. There will be people clearly not fit for work, who will lose PIP and LCWRA being given sanctions for not being able to work, this will be terrible.

  • johnnyy85
    johnnyy85 Community Member Posts: 266 Empowering
  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    I haven’t received a single reply so far . I think everyone you and I email should attach the CAB pathway to poverty link . I think alit of mps are being told lies and they don’t really know enough about disability benefits.

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