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Spot on me too pointing out the obvious I swear to God starmer thinks the whole of the UK brainless goggle name and shame list and send all labour mps or as many as you can saying this I email them all some ask for address I ignore because at that point they read email sent 5 and do another 5 today soften the blow give us more time !!!!! What to dig a trench and put up a tent no way email email email people we only got couple of weeks push back push back we have the power I know it's draining but think of the future they are planning bad no we have to do one thing today email your mps PUSHBACK
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By the looks of it the government are still not listening and not for backing down.
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So just read that Kier has said that "using AI makes us more human", i think that should of read "makes me appear more human"
I also think the England fans chant was spot on
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Who is going fight this war with a massive country like blooming Russia and its allies ? Our tiny island would be crushed in a day ! Its nowhere near the same as past wars where several countries all helped each other to defeat Germany, those days are long long gone.
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Starmer is dangerous on so many levels. He needs to keep his nose out of things that don't concern him. And fix the UK 👍
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"Providing a longer grace period, if they no longer meet the threshold to qualify for PIP - to allow them longer to apply for other benefits"
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That's what I'd like to know.
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In order for this money to be spent usefully, scientists, engineers, biologists are needed... and there are none. First, they need to be trained. Preferably in US and German universities. The batteries will still be Chinese.
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Yes. They don't need society. They need slaves who can work. The King of Great Britain is known to be available, haha!
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if your mp is like mine then that message is sent by the secretary and not the mp
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For example, a free ticket to the zoo once a year.
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From Rightsnet site
DWP ‘considering further’ how PIP 4-point rule will affect pensioners
Following previous advice from DWP Minister Sir Stephen Timms that people over state pension age will not be affected by the proposed eligibility changes to PIP announced in the Pathways to Work Green Paper, SNP MP Chris Law has asked a written question seeking further clarification in relation to pensioners who ask for a review.
While reiterating that people of state pension age are not routinely fully reviewed and 'will not be affected by these changes', Sir Stephen does however add that -
We are considering further how the 4-point minimum requirement will affect claimants over state pension age who report a change of circumstances, and we will provide further information in due course.
More: Personal Independence Payment: Pensioners | UIN 53903, answered on 6 June 2025
https://www.rightsnet.org.uk/now/post/63372
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The 2 answers to this so called grace period is that they're either lying or they're going to create a new LCW post 2028 where people clearly not fit for work who won't be eligible for this Health Element would be placed on and your Work Coach will decide rather than any assessment criteria.
That's my two cents and it's completely disastrous, this isn't about finding work, this is a vicious and calculated attack on disabled people make no mistake.
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What is like to know is this , my assessor read all my notes including medical notes before my assessment. She was very clued up on my medical history and conditions . She asked me every question that was on my form from a year and a half earlier. She most likely knew what points she was going to award me . So how will it work when then know they’re going to give you enough points to get an award in the current system but they’re not going to give you a 4 . Will they go through all the nonsense for two hours , give 8, 10, 12 points etc all for nothing ?
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Emailing is good its all registered just want him out saying softening by giving longer time to apply for benefits they just want disability benefits abolished
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I know they must be confident otherwise they would back down
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Yes sent same message loads of times I called him our on it how are you all ok
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Saying that brought back memories god 30 years ago went on a restraint course at Broadmoor yes Broadmoor our manager worked there long story theu took us round like a tour! And there was all glass window from floor to ceiling and about 20ish patients foaming at the mouth banging the window god it was scary and sad imagine starmer opening up places like Broadmoor if he could oh maybe not to expensive and letting people out of jail I net that's because they cost to much he's a vulture
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From Benefits and Work site
Ask local councillors to grill your MP about the Green Paper cuts
Published: 09 June 2025
Benefits and Work is asking readers to contact local councillors in order to get them to grill your MP about the effects Green Paper cuts will have on local services.
Because the cuts proposed by Labour won’t just hurt a huge number of claimants. What the DWP is doing is shifting some of the cost of disability from central government to local authorities and the NHS, with no suggestion that they’ll be increasing their funding to meet these costs.
The result will be overstretched services, longer waiting lists and cuts to less-essential services.
Areas such as care services, housing, health services, advice services and education will all be hit and everyone will be worse off as a result.
So, we think it’s time local councillors started to put real pressure on MPs who have not yet said they will vote against the cuts, to say how they expect local authorities to manage the additional demands.
We think this is an issue that makes it reasonable not just to contact your ward councillor, so we are suggesting you email a selection of your local councillors from different parties, as well as independents. You should find contact details for all councillors on your local authority website.
The letter could cover some of the following points, though of course you can reword it in any way you choose, perhaps to include references that are specific to your locality.
[Your name and address to prove you are local]
Dear [name of councillor],
I am writing to express my concern about the effects that the proposed Green Paper benefits cuts will have on local services and to ask you to discuss this with our constituency MP.
According to official estimates, 250,000 people will be pushed into poverty by the Green Paper cuts and 700,000 will be pushed into deeper poverty. There are no official figures on how many people might move into work due to Green paper changes, but the Resolution Foundation has estimated between 60,000 and 105,000 by the end of this parliament.
This means that, at the very least, it is likely that 845,000 people will be pushed into poverty or deeper poverty without being able to find work and some of these will be living in our constituency.
If our MP is considering voting in favour of the cuts, it’s important that they explain how the local authority will deal with the extra strain on its resources, including those listed below, that the cuts will bring.
Increased demand for adult social care
150,000 people are expected to lose their award of carer’s allowance because the person they care for has lost their PIP award. Many carers will have to seek full-time paid employment to make up for this massive loss of household income. This will lead to an increased demand for care provision from the local authority as well as access to day centres, lunch clubs and transport services. There is also likely to be an increased demand for aids and adaptations to people’s homes.
Increased demands on mental health services.
There is already evidence of claimants living with mental health issues experiencing a deterioration in their condition due to anxiety about the cuts. (DWP leaflets given to participants at in-person Green Paper consultation events included contact details for the Samaritans). If the PIP cuts go through, many claimants – even those with a 4 point descriptor - will experience an increase in anxiety just waiting for their turn to be assessed. For those who actually lose their PIP, and are obliged to attempt the extremely arduous reconsideration and appeals process to try to get it back, the effects may be dramatically worse. In addition, PIP often pays for counselling and other forms of therapy which help keep conditions manageable. So, there is likely to be increased pressure on local mental health services and an increase in costly emergency interventions.
Increased demands on other health services
The majority of people who will lose their PIP award will be older and live with physical health conditions such as arthritis, diabetes, heart conditions and respiratory conditions. With households losing up to £12,000 in annual income, there will be a considerable increase in people coping with poor nutrition, loss of special diet, cold and damp living conditions, social isolation, anxiety and more. All of these are likely to cause a deterioration in both physical and mental health conditions and an increase in demand for GP and other health services .
Increased demand for housing support
Many claimants depend on PIP to make up the shortfall in their rent. In addition, some claimants who lose their PIP will find themselves subject to the benefits cap and unable to afford their rent for that reason. It is extremely likely that an increased number of disabled people will face homelessness and require support from their local authority as a result of Green paper cuts.
Increased demand on schools
There is a wealth of evidence that children living in poverty are less likely to achieve at school. Breakfast clubs and free lunches may alleviate some of their hunger, but overcrowded and substandard housing, lack of online access and lack of money for additional activities can all hold children back and increase demands on teachers. The Green paper cuts are predicted to plunge at least 50,000 children into poverty and reduce their life chances. Some of those children will be in our constituency.
Increased demand for advice services
There will be a large increase in demand for advice on debt, housing and welfare benefits in particular. Local agencies may be overwhelmed and are likely to need increased funding to provide an effective service.
Given all the above – and there are probably other costs I have not considered - it seems certain that the Green Paper cuts will have a real and damaging effect on our local budget.
We hope that you will challenge our MP to give serious consideration to all these matters before they decide how to vote.
Best regards,
https://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/news/ask-local-councillors-to-grill-your-mp-about-the-green-paper-cuts
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