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It doesn’t surprise me Fuzzy, all we can do is get ready for all the bad news and pray that the MPs are decent and vote it down. I absolute despise Starmer, I actually believed he would be decent and make a difference when he was elected, he must be the biggest snake in the History of British politics. I hope one day he gets to feel the constant anxiety and despair that we are feeling. Nasty piece of work.

Labour are finished regardless. Starmer probably has a job lined up in the EU but will the back benchers be clever enough to vote against him to save themselves ?

I did notice though that when asked about further concessions he didn’t say no , he said they have to get reforms through .

Yeah I noticed that too , it's strange because the changes don't really affect me until 2028 when the wca gets abolished, I have no pip , so just cbesa and lcwra , so I reckon I'll have one more wca before the changes and that will take me up or past 2028 when I'll need to wrap my head round the pip reforms .... But it has to be said just , I still can't see how they think this will all work 😂 these are plans with absolutely no thought of the chaos they will cause , how can they go through as they are 🤷

The Sunday times got a headline that Kier Starmer has told MPs there will be no more concessions on welfare reform they will be pushed through. It's behind a paywall so can't see it all

They are all corrupt the government stinks 🤢

That's how I felt when I read it he must be sure they will go through

How can you leave a million people without money ?

I've been sure from the beginning of all this , these reforms are going through and if you listened to anyone who is credible in all this they always said that this rebellion was never going to stop them going through , forget about IF they go through because they will .... The most important thing now Is if they get amended , watered down , tweaked , whatever they call it , that's all that's important now

Yes he, John McDonell and Diane Abbott are some of the very few true Labour people left.

When asked about any more concessions starmer said reforms must go through, he didn’t actually say no concessions. He doesn’t like to to give any definite answers just in case he changes his mind .