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  • lincsgranny
    lincsgranny Community Member Posts: 201 Empowering

    Absolutely not just him alone Timms Reeves Kendall Streeting Jones and loads more could be here all day naming and shaming the cronies

  • charlie72
    charlie72 Community Member Posts: 259 Pioneering

    This from campaign for disability justice, good they are trying but if they think Starmer will listen or change his mind they're deluded. After what he said the other day about pressing ahead and no more consessions I realised you can't reason with a psycopath. The best we can now do is hope it gets watered down (yeah right!!) and plan for the future about how to get this 4 points. Iv'e sent emails to mp's etc, hope things might change or a u-turn, a waste of time in my view, better off talking to my gp and getting medical evidence down before these 'reforms' come in next year, plan ahead, keep diarys etc to gain this 4 point rule, it's our only hope, not being pessemistic but all the talk of help has been for WFA, and 2 child benefit cap, sod the disabled in his eyes.

    The Government’s consultation on the Pathways to Work Green Paper closes on Monday, June 30 and we plan to deliver our response - with the open letter that you signed – by hand to Downing Street.

    To remind you - the letter sets out the key concerns many of us share:

    • That the proposals risk cutting crucial financial support to Disabled people without improving access to work. 
    • That proper consultation is missing where it matters most. 
    • That real change requires listening to Disabled people and working with us on what’s urgently needed: real reform of PIP and the Work Capability Assessment – so they work for Disabled people, not cut their benefits - effective safeguarding, access to employment support, and a national strategy for advice services. 

    Together, we are delivering a thoughtful, united response that reflects the real needs of Disabled people and calls for a better way forward.

    Ensuring your voice is heard where it counts 

    This letter isn’t the only way we’re making sure our voices are heard.

    We’ve also been actively engaging with policymakers to raise concerns face-to-face: 

    • Last week, our campaign CEO, Caroline Collier, and Head of Policy, Geoff Fimister, met with Dan Tomlinson, MP for Chipping Barnet, to discuss our serious concerns about the Green Paper and the missing proposals from the official consultation.
    • Next week, we’ll meet with David Pinto-Duschinsky, MP for Hendon, to continue those conversations in Parliament.
    • Geoff Fimister also spoke at the National Association of Welfare Rights Advisers (NAWRA) conference, calling for a national advice strategy to ensure Disabled people can access local, independent support when dealing with benefits and related systems.
    • Just this week, Caroline Collier, along with several other Deaf and Disabled People’s Organisations, met with officials from the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) to contribute to the ongoing Mayfield Review and advocate for a more inclusive approach to employment reform. The Mayfield Review aims to identify the scale, trends, obstacles and opportunities for companies when recruiting and retaining ill and disabled people. 

    Each of these meetings strengthens the message in our open letter, and each step gets us closer to ensuring Disabled people’s voices are central to decisions being made. 

    A word about the Spending Review  

    You may have caught the Government’s Spending Review announcement on Wednesday. We welcome the renewed investment in employment support, but to truly deliver change, this agenda must be led by Disabled-led organisations who are the experts in inclusive employment. The government’s commitments will only be meaningful if Disabled people and Disabled-led organisations are at the centre of delivery. We urge policymakers to partner with those who have lived experience and invest in what already works. 

    We value your support 

    We look forward to bringing you more updates in the weeks to come. In the meantime, here’s how you can help: 

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    When we act together, clearly and collectively, our voices carry. Public pressure works, but only if people know what’s happening and take action. Let’s make sure our voices are heard.

     

    Thank you, as always, for being part of this.

    Kind regards,

    Campaign for Disability Justice

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    He put together a front bench of fellow psychopaths. They all creep me out but Starmer and Kendall especially.
    Starmers supposed to support human rights but is going against everything he is supposed to stand for

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  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    Let’s hope they have a case to take this to court 🤞🙏

  • Zipz
    Zipz Community Member Posts: 4,345 Championing

    Ultimately, he can't force them. This is a parliamentary democracy. The way the votes go depends on each and every backbencher.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    This is personal against us . If it’s to bring the benefit bill down they won’t scrap the two child limit will they ? If that’s scrapped the benefits bill will increase as people will have more children. You can’t control getting old or becoming sick or disabled though , we have no choice do we ?
    As you say we need to check our awards and make sure we know we need the 4? Point next time . My last form was about 5 years ago , I just read it and there’s at least one descriptor where I should have gotten a 4. Assessor 2 year and half years ago gave me a. 2 . She was steering me towards the 2s then increased my award . I couldn’t understand why then but now I think this was always coming

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    I think I was asked if I have any other bank accounts but yet again I think it depends on who you get which annoys me . I read on scope someone else had same biographical interview and they were asked questions from 20 years ago . I wouldn’t have any letters that far back and brain fog means I barely remember yesterday. When they called me I was on phone for 10-15 mins and we chatted about our birth signs in that time 😂. I was just asked any other benefits you on , how much ( I didn’t know exactly the amount which was fine) really basic stuff . Nothing to worry about

  • lincsgranny
    lincsgranny Community Member Posts: 201 Empowering

    He knew what he was doing when he put them together.

    They are not politicians they have allowed so much harm to the British People, they should hang their heads in shame

  • Tumilty
    Tumilty Community Member Posts: 506 Empowering

    There is a very long time to go until Nov 26 and already a stink is being caused by MPs who understand that the disabled shouldn't be punished for having an illness. I agree they should focus on people like the many on an estate near me, youngsters riding around on pricey bikes doing dodgy stuff, they should be focused on first.

    How are employers going to deal with people who can't turn up or can't work,losing benefits and becoming homeless or in to worse poverty.

    Just a question. If your reassessed and awarded pip before Nov 26 and given 2 or 5 years as awards go then what happens then? Does it stop?

    Regards

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  • charlie72
    charlie72 Community Member Posts: 259 Pioneering

    It's not really case of Iv'e 'given in' so to speak, it just seems more than likely these cuts will be voted through. I too checked my previous award letters and found I should have got at least 4 points in 2 descriptors!! I took a photo of my award and the reaons they gave for each descriptor and put it into Chatgpt. I know some folk don't like AI but it was very useful and told me what to do and say to get 4 points or more in each daily living component for my own disability needs. Iv'e printed it off in preparation for my next review in 3 years time (thinking ahead!!) and will use it to help me hopefully get what I should have done last time. I'll take it right to tribunal if I have to, I'm not giving up what I fought to get for 2 years initially when I first applied for pip, that's why it's best to prepare ourselves now for what is coming.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    Exactly Kendall in that job for a reason and Timms a disability mp yet walks around a disabled person who collapsed

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    My migration has been fine so far ( apart from having my rent paid directly to council so I lost a bit and no one seems able to sort it out) . I was confused about one of the questions online and uc put me through to CAB . I’ve had some nice ppl from uc when I’ve called them .

  • waylander9602
    waylander9602 Community Member Posts: 77 Empowering

    I think whatever happens it will go through. Not sure what they expect people to live on though 🤔

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    I also fought for two years up to upper tier and can’t imagine doing that again but I will if I have to . Stupid thing is the tribunal went against me as I didn’t use aids , now it’ll go against if you do use aids. I have it on my form I need prompting and I won’t accept a 2 for that so easily this time . I think we need to plan ahead as we don’t know how this will turn out .

  • lincsgranny
    lincsgranny Community Member Posts: 201 Empowering

    Kendall needs some help that level of anger towards disabled and sick people should be ringing alarm bells in MPs heads. No empathy at all for anyone with illness it's appalling what Timms did

  • Tumilty
    Tumilty Community Member Posts: 506 Empowering

    Hi Catherine, so if people reassessed now or before Nov 26 even if don't get awarded but then do over mandatory reconsideration they do then Nov 26 don't matter.

    When the see the damage that this will cause to people and the demonstrations it's going to be uproar on the streets.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    I’ve never heard of that before. In my experience so far it’s been fine , in fact I should be better off than I was before. Was advised don’t go over till you have to and I’ve had less money because of it . Try not to worry it’s not that bad . You contact CAB at cab help to claim live chat or by phone

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