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  • Ross1975
    Ross1975 Online Community Member Posts: 890 Championing

    Exactly, some are lovely and some are sadistic.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    Sometimes it’s the lovely ones you need to be careful of

  • Fuzzy200
    Fuzzy200 Online Community Member Posts: 51 Empowering

    I have just been reading this article. Apparently no 10 have said no more surprises or changes, the bill will go through.

    https://liveapp.inews.co.uk/category/3752544/content.html

  • Fuzzy200
    Fuzzy200 Online Community Member Posts: 51 Empowering
  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    I can’t read as not subscribed. He seems to be u turning on everything apart from us . Sooner he’s forced out the better

  • charlie72
    charlie72 Online Community Member Posts: 259 Pioneering

    I think if certain people have to engage with a workcoach, and lets say you have social anxiety, can't engage with people properly etc then the reasonable adjustments will have to be made. They can't force you to attend a JC if it would put you in danger or more distress, there are laws which protect us against that. The equality act 2010 for one, and your human rights too, I think most of us would just have to engage periodically either on the phone or through your online journals. If they try force me to a JC i'll be taking legal action against the DWP, the workcoach, and JC involved. I refuse to let them scare me, intimidate me, or make threats of me losing my benefits, when the law is on my side. It's all utter nonsense, and more scare tactics by the government and Kendall to demoralise us and beat us down, don't fall for it, it's completely illegal, immoral, and unworkable.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    Thank you . They should say that pip will always be there as long as you get a 4 point, nothing to do with being sick or disabled

  • rach_90
    rach_90 Online Community Member Posts: 38 Contributor

    to be honest this government haven’t got the best track record for sticking to their word. They said they wouldn’t back down to the WFA, they u-turned. The two children cap, they said they wouldn’t back down, they backed down. The consultation is completely lawful, so will be likely challenged.

    Remember they haven’t completely u-turned on the WFA. I think all pensioners got this until last year, then it was those only on pension credit, that left those just over the threashold to choose between eating or heating, last winter. Now I believe that pensioner with annual income no more than £35,000 will receive it this year.

    That a softening of the cut to the WFA. I think we will see the same thing if I’m honest - not a complete u-turn or scrapping of the cuts, but a watered down proposal, remember know we know MPs are voting on it, they can voice their concerns etc.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    What happened to the concession that those on enhanced aren’t affected by the 4 point rule ? Does anyone know what the actual concession ms are apart from 13 weeks till destitution

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    Hi Charlie,

    Same here . I have ME among other things and if I don’t pace myself it can be harmful. People die of ME . When I had an appointment recently regarding uc migration in JC I asked for phone appointment and they were fine . I said it’s hard getting there with my conditions .

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    I hope you’re right . What happened to the concessions ? I thought they were scrapping the 4? Point for enhanced. All I’ve seen recently is 13 weeks of pip

  • rach_90
    rach_90 Online Community Member Posts: 38 Contributor

    I read that too in the Financial Times around the time the rebellion and the support from disabled celebrities coming out damning the cuts. It could be there in the bill, we don’t know what been “tweaked” yet. Problem with MSM they don’t always report on everything - the information or rumours are so saturated they are everywhere. We just don’t what to trust

  • YogiBear
    YogiBear Online Community Member Posts: 414 Pioneering

    Things didn't go well here in N.Ireland. This was just posted on X by Women's Support Net.

    Women's Support Net

    At @DWPgovuk event on the Pathways to Work Green Paper but walked out in solidarity with our friends @DPACNI. They refuse to listen to feedback about proposals to cut PIP & Universal Credit for disabled people which will have such an impact in NI. Cuts to PIP will have knock-on impacts too with many carers likely to lose access to Carer’s Allowance. We’re concerned about the gendered impacts of these proposals as women are more likely to claim social security benefits & to provide care In our written response to this consultation we have refused to answer the specific questions because they assume acceptance of the cuts and we do not accept them.This is not co-design, this is not co-production!

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    They want a vote on something that seems very secretive even to back benchers . None of this seems legal to me

  • rach_90
    rach_90 Online Community Member Posts: 38 Contributor

    definitely feels that we are being persecuted, doesn’t it? I wonder what one disabled individual did to Kendall? 🤔

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    She’s a psychopath like starmer and psychopaths don’t seem to like what they class as weakness. Kendall is definitely no ok , something not right with her

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  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    Last one was on phone but I now know she was steering me towards 2 point answers and even answers that should of been a 4 she gave 2 .

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    Report in the guardian about up to 50 rebels. I can’t read it all to share but maybe someone who subscribes can

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