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Hopefully here’s hoping
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Ranald what do you make of the severe conditions criteria? The part that says constantly is rather ambiguous. Do they mean the symptoms that get you the award must be 24/7 with no respite from pain or fatigue etc . Is that their way of turning people down. The pip test says you only need symptoms 50% I think.
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I think incurable conditions what sum up us all really. Most conditions seem to be treatable at best . My ME isn’t even treatable
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There were mentions here that whenever benefit cuts/reforms come to the table it's like bartering, you start from a high position then you bring the price down so it can sell.
As much as Labour would love to, as much as the political establishment would love to they can't go full throttle.
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Omg that’s just terrible. Things like that should not be happening. My GP asked me recently who makes these decisions are they Drs etc . I said no at best a nurse but it depends on how truthful and nice they are .
If these changes go through they should at least use NHS guidelines and not the opinion of the assessor. When I read about the criteria I read it as you firstly have to not only qualify for lcwra but for severe it has to be constant. So will that mean your condition has to be constant or the symptoms you get awarded on constant. Example if you get it on the mobility do you have to have the same level mobility 24/7 or are you allowed good days as you are with pip ? If you have an eating disorder and need prompting is it for everything you eat or if they say would you go and eat a biscuit without prompting and you say maybe, then you fail . And of course you could pass all these tests and fail the 4 points . I don’t think they’ve thought it through hence no real details.1 -
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I’m sure it’s the same amount of points we need now just one needs to be a 4 .
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If they remove mobility what descriptors fit conditions such as ME fibromyalgia long Covid etc where pain and fatigue are the main symptoms and are constant. There really needs to be descriptors for fatigue and pain specifically. It’s ok them saying work from home but you need energy to be able to do that . And it’s something that affects us all as being in pain makes you fatigued. Fatigue has no treatment and you can’t fight through it .
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Oh god if only
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@secretsquirrel1 in answer to you no eating a biscuit without prompting, wouldn’t disqualify you from 4 points in “preparing food descriptor for needing prompting or assistance to prepare food.
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Hi rach ,
No I meant if a person needed prompting to eat , would constant mean anything they ate needed to be prompted or would it count if they ate a biscuit etc without prompting occasionally. Same as the walking descriptior . Is it going to be a trick that it’s not having the condition constant but the symptom .
I also notice that it said a high score such as 8 in each descriptor which isn’t true so how correct is the inline search ?
I think the prompting to cook is for pip but to get severe you have to get at least one descriptor in the lcwra first plus is has to be constant, so I guess no good days . If I’m correct as it’s all so complicated and I think it’s supposed to be to confuse. Worrying thing is if voting MPs have the same info as us they’re voting on something without all the details0 -
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What the descriptors for lcwra
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If they were genuinely wanting reform they should have done a proper consultation and impact assessment. Then put it all to a democratic vote. What they’re doing is waiting to see if this passes then move the goalposts. So you need a 4 point then the 4 point descriptors are actually the 8 point descriptors. Surely it’s illegal to even do that as MPs are voting on the 4 point rule only for the rule to be changed afterwards without a vote. If he did bring that in it would be the end of pip and lcwra completely as not many even get a 4 now. But I’ve said they’ll do this for ages now. As soon as she said they’re looking at the assessments .
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