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I think she’s also said Vicky foxcroft is the only frontbencher to show concern about the cuts and there is no rebellion
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I’m sorry but this man should not be talking about economics.
It’s incredible that MSM still have the balls to give him space to speak out. He nearly single-handedly sunk the country.
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Regarding the severe criteria do they mean a particular symptom has to be constant? I have ME and fibromyalgia which causes constant leg pain and fatigue. It’s every day . Are they saying that counts or if I take pain meds and get a few hours respite that no longer counts as constant ? Same as say eating, if you need prompting to eat will that not count if you eat a biscuit without being told to ?
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coming from her, I would not be surprised if that’s just another lie.
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Exactly
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I think they’ll be some that are brave and will speak out straight away as they have done and those watching to see what’s happening. Safety in numbers . One said if Starmer takes away the whip from them all they’ll just start another party . Now Vicky’s resigned the whip it may give them more courage to follow suit 🤞
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Hopefully here’s hoping
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Ranald what do you make of the severe conditions criteria? The part that says constantly is rather ambiguous. Do they mean the symptoms that get you the award must be 24/7 with no respite from pain or fatigue etc . Is that their way of turning people down. The pip test says you only need symptoms 50% I think.
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I think incurable conditions what sum up us all really. Most conditions seem to be treatable at best . My ME isn’t even treatable
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There were mentions here that whenever benefit cuts/reforms come to the table it's like bartering, you start from a high position then you bring the price down so it can sell.
As much as Labour would love to, as much as the political establishment would love to they can't go full throttle.
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That’s the issue, isn’t it? There’s never a clear list of which conditions are considered “severe” enough to be exempt from reassessments. Everything is handled on a case-by-case basis. They consider whether a condition is lifelong, progressive, or incurable, whether someone is likely to remain out of work long term, and whether they meet the LCWRA criteria. But they never name specific conditions, so the system remains vague and inconsistent.
Something like ME might qualify if the evidence is presented strongly enough, but it all depends on how the case is written up and what the assessor decides on the day. Two people with the same diagnosis can be treated completely differently.
One of my colleagues was deeply distressed about her sister, who was wheelchair bound and suffering from small cell lung cancer. Just a week before she passed away, she was still required to attend a meeting with a job coach to prove she had been actively looking for work. It’s hard to comprehend how someone in such a clearly terminal state could be put through that process.
But because doctors couldn’t say with certainty that she would die within a year, she didn’t qualify for the Special Rules. So despite the seriousness of her condition, she was treated as eligible to look for work.
I want to believe that the new rules will offer better protection for people like my colleague’s sister in the future. But that’s the core of the problem. The rules are often written in ways that leave too much open to interpretation, depending on how the assessor views the situation. And that makes the system feel unpredictable and, at times, deeply unfair and even cruel.
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Omg that’s just terrible. Things like that should not be happening. My GP asked me recently who makes these decisions are they Drs etc . I said no at best a nurse but it depends on how truthful and nice they are .
If these changes go through they should at least use NHS guidelines and not the opinion of the assessor. When I read about the criteria I read it as you firstly have to not only qualify for lcwra but for severe it has to be constant. So will that mean your condition has to be constant or the symptoms you get awarded on constant. Example if you get it on the mobility do you have to have the same level mobility 24/7 or are you allowed good days as you are with pip ? If you have an eating disorder and need prompting is it for everything you eat or if they say would you go and eat a biscuit without prompting and you say maybe, then you fail . And of course you could pass all these tests and fail the 4 points . I don’t think they’ve thought it through hence no real details.1 -
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I’m sure it’s the same amount of points we need now just one needs to be a 4 .
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This is how I am personally interpreting the latest proposals. Other members may interpret them differently.
To meet the new Severe Conditions Criteria, a condition must be permanent, unchanging and diagnosed by a qualified NHS professional. This diagnosis must also be recorded in your NHS records. The aim is to bring greater consistency and reduce how much individual assessors need to rely on personal judgement in the most serious cases.
For general PIP, LCWRA and LCW decisions, the process will still involve evidence and assessments, so assessor judgement will continue to play a role.
One example you mentioned in your post is around needing prompting to eat. Assessors will consider whether you need help every time you eat. If, for instance, you are sometimes able to eat something like a biscuit on your own, that could be taken as evidence that support is not always required, which might affect your eligibility, as it is not a constant requirement to have assistance.
When it comes to mobility, I really cannot answer. Labour is planning changes, but they have not yet said how mobility will be treated under LCWRA or whether there will be changes to the mobility component of PIP in the revised system planned for November 2026.
I do know the Conservatives had previously suggested removing mobility from LCWRA altogether, arguing that remote work reduces the impact of mobility issues, as people could work from home. Labour has not confirmed their position on this, so until we see the revised criteria or hear more during the debate in Parliament on 1 July, it is hard to say how they will assess people with mobility issues under LCWRA, but I do know Conservatives were of the opinion mobility was not a barrier to work in the age of remote working.
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MPs cannot be removed from Parliament just for voting against their party. If an MP votes against the party line (often called rebelling), they may face party discipline, but they still keep their seat and retain their basic salary of £93,904 a year as the elected representative of their constituency.
The most serious action a party can take is removing the party whip. This means the MP is expelled from the parliamentary party and becomes an independent MP. However, they still remain an MP and keep their salary unless they resign or are otherwise disqualified for inappropriate or criminal behaviour.
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If they remove mobility what descriptors fit conditions such as ME fibromyalgia long Covid etc where pain and fatigue are the main symptoms and are constant. There really needs to be descriptors for fatigue and pain specifically. It’s ok them saying work from home but you need energy to be able to do that . And it’s something that affects us all as being in pain makes you fatigued. Fatigue has no treatment and you can’t fight through it .
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