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  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 4,351 Championing

    She's fighting for her political life. If this Bill fails she's out of a job.

  • johnnyy85
    johnnyy85 Online Community Member Posts: 266 Empowering

    we could get an idea with leaks of how many are against after this meeting and how firm the rebels are

  • johnnyy85
    johnnyy85 Online Community Member Posts: 266 Empowering
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    Latest in the independent

  • johnnyy85
    johnnyy85 Online Community Member Posts: 266 Empowering

    Labour rebels have said they will refuse to support Keir Starmer’s plans to slash disability benefits – despite claims they could face deselection if they vote against the reforms.

    The Independent has been told that MPs – including ministers – considering rebelling against the government’s welfare reforms on Tuesday next week have been threatened with losing the whip and even, according to two sources, deselection. The issue is set to come to a head in a meeting of the Parliamentary Labour Party on Monday evening.

    The government plans to make £5bn a year in savings on welfare mostly by reducing personal independence payments (PIPs) for those with disabilities by limiting access to them for all apart from the most The issue is set to come to a head in a meeting of the Parliamentary Labour Party on Monday evening.

    The government plans to make £5bn a year in savings on welfare mostly by reducing personal independence payments (PIPs) for those with disabilities by limiting access to them for all apart from the most disabled .

    Around 80 Labour MPs, including 12 ministers, are understood to be considering rebelling against the legislation needed to cut the welfare bill by £5bn a year.

    According to sources, ministers and other MPs have been warned they could face deselection if they resign and vote against the government. Downing Street denied this, with a source saying: “This isn’t how we do business.”

    But a number of others have been warned that they could face the same consequences of former shadow chancellor John McDonnell, Zara Sultana and others who lost the whip after rebelling over the two child benefit cap.

    Last week deputy prime minister Angela Rayner refused to rule out punishments for those planned to rebel against the government.

    Meanwhile, it is understood that MPs requesting permission to miss the vote are being denied because the government wants a show of loyalty on the second reading vote on 1 July.


    In the PLP meeting on Monday evening just a week before the vote, work and pensions secretary Liz Kendall will try to persuade fellow Labour MPs that the government has no choice but to balance the books.


    But former Jeremy Corbyn ally Richard Burgon has announced that he will be presenting a petition demanding wealth taxes instead of benefits cuts next week just 24 hours before the crucial vote.Posting on X (formerly Twitter), he said: “It’s now confirmed: the vote on disability cuts will be next week.
    “So next Monday in Parliament, I’ll be presenting my petition for a Wealth Tax - not disability cuts.

    “Over 70,000 have already signed! Let's get as many as possible.”

    The issue became a subject of tensions in the run-up to last month’s spending review when a leaked memo from Ms Rayner also proposed eight new wealth taxes on the richest individuals and big corporations as an alternative to cuts.

  • johnnyy85
    johnnyy85 Online Community Member Posts: 266 Empowering

    Some big news on Robert peston x

    Important story by @romillyweeks . This widely backed reasoned amendment that she says will be tabled tonight has the potential to kill the government’s reforms to PIP snd the disability elements of Universal Credit. This would be a huge humiliation for Keir Starmer and Liz Kendall

  • Santosha12
    Santosha12 Online Community Member Posts: 4,123 Championing

    I just caught that at the end of the itv news but was getting dogs ready for bed and thought have I just imagined that / couldn't see it when just googled.

  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 4,351 Championing
  • YogiBear
    YogiBear Online Community Member Posts: 414 Pioneering
  • YogiBear
    YogiBear Online Community Member Posts: 414 Pioneering

    Robert Peston X page

    Important story by @romillyweeks . This widely backed reasoned amendment that she says will be tabled tonight has the potential to kill the government’s reforms to PIP snd the disability elements of Universal Credit. This would be a huge humiliation for Keir Starmer and Liz Kendall

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing
  • YogiBear
    YogiBear Online Community Member Posts: 414 Pioneering

    @romillyweeks X page recently.

    I understand a reasoned amendment to the welfare reform bill is being tabled this evening with the backing of 13 labour select Ctte chairs

    wording of the amendment ‘That this House, whilst noting the need for the reform of the social security system, and agreeing with the Government’s principles for providing support to people into work and protecting people who cannot work, declines to give a Second Reading to 1/3

    The Universal Credit and Personal Independent Payment’ Bill because its provisions have not been subject to a formal consultation with disabled people, or co-produced with them, or their carers; because the Office for Budget Responsibility is not due to publish its analysis 2/3

    of the employment impact of these reforms until the autumn of 2025; because the majority of the additional employment support funding will not be in place until the end of the decade; because the Government’s own impact assessment estimates that 250,000 people will be pushed 3/5

    into poverty as a result of these provisions, including 50,000 children; because the Government has not published an assessment of the impact of these reforms on health or care needs; because the Government is still awaiting the findings of the Minister for Social Security 4/5

  • johnnyy85
    johnnyy85 Online Community Member Posts: 266 Empowering

    that there looking to get it chucked out before the second reading

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing
  • lincsgranny
    lincsgranny Online Community Member Posts: 201 Empowering
  • Ross1975
    Ross1975 Online Community Member Posts: 973 Championing
    edited June 2025

    What's the point in having a vote if you're going to try and force everyone to vote one way, it's very undemocratic, I'm surprised this is allowed.

  • johnnyy85
    johnnyy85 Online Community Member Posts: 266 Empowering
  • AppleJacks
    AppleJacks Posts: 89 Empowering
    edited June 2025
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    Just thought you may want to see this from the BBC to help with your claim secretsquirel1

  • lincsgranny
    lincsgranny Online Community Member Posts: 201 Empowering

    Most definitely we have all be through enough with this think we need a break from it praying the second reading won't be allowed 🤞

  • johnnyy85
    johnnyy85 Online Community Member Posts: 266 Empowering
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