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If it gets the desired outcome, we should probably just run with it.
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From bbc .
torys keeping cards close to their chests . I emailed kemi 3 times and received nice replies but not confirmation either way .
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At least we will know this evening
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He’s pressing on
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Please can we keep it friendly today 🙂
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They're scheduled to vote next week @Catherine21 however this reasoned amendment which is what's received a lot of votes. If it's selected by the speaker today, it will be debated and voted on. If the vote is successful, it would mean the bill doesn't progress as is which is essentially the same as voting the bill down. I haven't heard yet whether the speaker has selected it.
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No @Catherine21 The 2nd Reading is still on 1 July.
Whether the House votes on the Bill will be determined by whether the Speaker accepts the ammendment. If he give it the go ahead, the House will vote on the ammendment. If it passes, there won't be a vote on the Bill. The Bill is stalled. If the ammendment is refused by the Speaker or fails to get enough votes, the House will vote on the Bill.
I think there are 119 MPs' names on the ammendment. It could be that the government will withdraw the Bill before next week but I doubt it. They are too stupidly arrogant.
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Why is Starmer still pressing ahead as he puts it, and that Pat Mcfadden bloke as well on BBC this morning? He's either hanging on until last minute, or he's been in touch with Kemi badenoch and knows they will vote with Labour. I don't understand why tories would do this when they have a real chance at humiliating Starmer and getting the bill thrown out, underming his authority and making him a laughing stock tomorrow at pmq's .Maybe he thinks he can still carry on making threats and trying to bribe mp's to push it through, what a complete ego maniac he is, this is surely the end of Starmer, Id give him 2 months max.
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Yeh well aren't they along with Mel Stride even more up for benefit cuts than Labour
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there are plenty of ways they can generate the wealth required fiscally. they have to tax the rich, then and ask the bank of england to generate the rest of the money.
that's how money is made, because the UK is a sovereign currency state.
don't believe neoliberal fairy stories about money. thats what Nandy, Kid Starver at el. want you to think.
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Given how many Labour MPs tend to be cowards that refuse to take the decisive action required, (like most British people regarding politics), i do not expect this rebellion to materialise.
after all, these are the same people that supported the assisted dying bill (and the fact that even exists is reason enough alone to oppose these cuts, yet alone assisted dying while disabled people still have to fight to survive).
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i did choose them very carefully thank you
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The whole idea that this welfare vote is also a confidence vote in Sir Kid Starver is hilarious, considering that most people in this country hate him and his government.
they'd also hate Morgan McSweeney (his chief of staff, who allegedly is actually pullin the strings) if they knew who he is.
almost nobody has confidence in Starver. If these cuts go through, his downfall is still inevitable. Most likely to Nigel Farage, because the British left is equally **** at political strategy.
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More than 120 now
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More than 120 Labour MPs have signed up to an effort to block plans to cut disability and sickness-related benefits
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I wonder if the Conservatives will side with the PM or Labour rebels. This is a key. Fingers crossed it goes our way.
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well on bbc article it says directly to starmer his repsonse.
Asked if he would be happy to rely on Conservative votes to push the reforms through Parliament, he said: "I have no idea what the Conservatives will do. I don't think they've got the first idea what they're doing."
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I think I read that they called them cruel . But whatever they think of us this could be better for the Tory’s if it undermines Starmer .
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Hi Charlie,
I just emailed kemi again . We really need them on our side . I can’t think of how voting for cuts benefits the Tory’s . Why would they want to save Starmer ?
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