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Exactly this. If they back down, we’re being hoodwinked. If they’re going to take onboard recommendations from a review that takes place after the bill why not delay it and do the review/proper consultation? It’s a complete scam. Is there anything to be done now before Tuesday eg more emails to MPs?
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Wow so it's officially a money bill according to the gov site now?
So this is all smoke and mirrors as feared.
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Someone pointed out that it isn’t a money bill so far, it’s possible I’m confused about the processes. They’ve just got everyone’s backs up and trust is gone
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thank you, a diagram is extremely helpful.
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Definitely, there is absolutely no trust, that's the only sure thing here. That and the stress on us all.
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So my 27 year old son who is still on DLA, because they were so backlogged when he turned 16, could potentially not get PIP because he would be a new claimant. How is that fair? At present he is on low mobility, but if he swapped to PIP he would get enhanced because he cannot go out alone. I've been patiently waiting rather than swap him early just for more money but I'm thinking of applying for PIP for him now.
It is not fair that old and claimants of PIP and LCWRA get different amounts. I thought this was the whole point of Universal Credit to bring everyone to the same amounts.1 -
I was just talking to dwp and he said I’m putting you down as paper based or phone . I’m not sure how you request it tbh . I would just get as much info as possible. Do a diary to show how your condition affects you. If you can get help from cab or equivalent. All you Drs letters and medical notes . I send my own in as I want my own doctor write my letter not just my assigned GP who I never see . But I think you can call them and ask for phone if paper based not possible. Others on here will know more but I’ll be calling them and asking myself. Good luck , I also called my assessment centre once appointment came through and told them I want phone and recorded . This time I’ll also record it myself 🤞
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It's so sad that the approximately 2.5 million people who are currently on Universal Credit (UC) LCWRA or in the Employment and Support Allowance (ESA) Support Group have not received sufficient attention or reporting in the media or public discourse!
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This has been so frustrating all along. It's all about PIP which is of course important but the impact on this side is also massive and hardly anybody mentions it when you see talk on it elsewhere.
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Thank you, once more.
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Someone wrote the following on B&W, claiming Robert Preston wrote it on twitter. Do you think this is talking about us?
"There will also be “grandfathering” of the disability top up universal credit for existing claimants. So again no detriment to existing claimants."
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It sounds like it's about us but it's confusing to me if they're doing away with WCA and seemed like they wanted to get rid of LCWRA, unless I understood it wrong. I don't understand what is supposed to happen after the deadline they want to impose on it.
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I read that earlier as the freeze will no longer exist for those already claiming
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The freeze is not really a major concern, but our fate as claimants on LCWRA.
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No, you're not understanding it wrong; they're rather the ones that are not clear and are confusing us.
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I think the pip health element will be terrible for us all . I think they should be separate. Or continue to award money until we’ve gone through the appeal process.
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That's exactly what I think - PIP and WCA should be separate as they're now.
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If you want to read a paywalled article, which requires payment, typically through a subscription or one-time purchase, to access its full content, you can use this link to read such articles. Copy the URL of the article you want to read and paste it in the bar of the link where it says, "Enter article URL", and click the search button and voila!
You'll see underneath, option1, option, option3. If it doesn't work on option1, click option3.
I've just used it to read the article of the Torygraph.
https://archive.is/20250626185646/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/06/26/keir-starmer-caves-in-to-rebels-on-benefits/
Save the above link somewhere.
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