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So when they inevitably take my LCWRA and I have to apply for PIP, I'm still done for.
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So they can give zero points and unless we win MR or tribunal we need a 4. We need it scrapped
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you should apply now
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where did you see that info johnny
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At this point, any claims that the bill is set to be designated a money bill are simply unfounded. The process is crystal clear: a bill must complete all its stages in the House of Commons, including second reading, committee stage, report stage and third reading, before the Speaker can decide whether it qualifies as a money bill.
That decision only happens once the Commons has finished with the bill and it is on its way to the Lords. It is not something that gets decided partway through. So anyone claiming otherwise is just engaging in scaremongering and trying to play mind reader with no basis in fact.
The chances of defeat are very real but not guaranteed. The strength of the opposition, the level of support for the amendment, and the unpredictability of Labour rebels all mean the outcome is still very much in the balance. If opposition parties remain unified and those key rebel MPs stick to their guns, there is a credible path to blocking the bill or forcing significant change.
Next week carries both fear and fragile hope. For many, this vote cuts to the heart of daily life support, security, stability. The margin is painfully tight, the consequences profound. Yet even in the uncertainty, I’m holding onto quiet optimism. One thing I do feel certain of, whatever happens, they won’t get everything their own way.
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Omg of course how sneaky of him
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what do you think of this
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I'm still not clear if the new rules are already in play or not for claimants. Heard so many stories that they are.
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Rachel reeves been in tears all day apparently
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Isn't that illegal?
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Massive consessions, what a joke ,other better options were put forward but he refused them, mps need to stand their ground and tell starmer to do one .
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One concession ? That’s it . I hope they don’t agree to it . I read there’s also something for people with multiple conditions
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Surely when we get a reivew though and don't get a 4 point score then we'd be classed as new claimaints and stilll lose our PIP anyway.
So this is just delaying losing PIP for people who don't have a 4 point until their next reivew.
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Good!
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Exactly. Isn't it just the same problem, reworded.
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I hope most of the rebel MPs still oppose but I'm worried most will accept this. Terrible.
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Robert Peston
I understand Starmer’s offer to the welfare rebel MPs is to protect PIP payments for all existing claimants forever. There would be no detriment from the reforms for existing claimants. This would shave circa £2bn from the reform savings by 2029. I am unclear whether this would persuade enough rebels to back the remaining reforms in next Tuesday’s vote1
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