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Well I had hope and felt happy , now reading all the negative stuff puts me back again .
I just got awarded enhanced on both and still only for 3 years , because my hearing might be cured and my agoraphobia too which I've had since aged 7 . Oh and lets not forget sleep apnea (no cure and mine isn't related to weight as I am not over weight), but it might be cured according to the assessor .
All the anxiety and stress of another review takes the joy out of the award , because we know its only a matter of time and it all starts again .
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We need to flood mps again yep start again I mean it's friday today not long till Tuesday can someone do a template ??
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I agree. I believe and could be wrong, that at re assessment we are treated as new claimants. If we loose PIP at that stage then what ? The ''existing claimants will stay the same forever'' is a load of rubbish in my opinion. They know what they are doing, they are offering ''nothing'' wrapped in a silk scarf. If folk here can see that then why oh why are the rebels so easily accepting the concessions. My head is not functioning very well at the mo, new meds for a chronic progressive condition are really messing with my reasoning etc, I have been told it can happen, suddenly I am a ranty person which is very alien to me, its scary. So, what I am trying to say above could be totally wrong, if it is I apologise. I personally think, looking at everything in the round, this is far far from over, they never ever offer anything without removing something else. I don't want to be the negative one here but I still think if not at this time, we will in the very near future, be facing very worrying changes that will be put through whether we like them or not.
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The Universal Credit and Personal Independence Payment Bill is heading for a vote next week. If it passes, the changes to PIP and UC will be locked in. That includes the 4-point rule, cuts to the UC health element, and tighter criteria that will hit people with fluctuating or invisible conditions the hardest.
Yes, the government made a “concession”: a 13-week transitional payment and a promise not to reassess current PIP claimants straight away. But let’s be honest, this was not done to protect sick and disabled people. It was done to win back rebel MPs and save the bill from collapse. The core cuts are still there. The damage is still baked in.
These are not real protections. They are political cover. And once the bill passes, it is game over. You cannot rewrite legislation with regret.
Email your MP now. Tell them to vote against the Universal Credit and PIP Bill. This is not a compromise. It is a calculated trade-off. And the people paying the price are the ones who can least afford it.
If the bill passes, the only way to challenge these new descriptors will be through the courts or the appeals process within the DWP. And we all know how stacked and punishing that system already is.
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They don't satisfy me Zipz, I think we are being hoodwinked and I am in disbelief that the rebels are conceding so quickly with no getting their brains into gear first.
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Sky news
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So what does any of this mean to existing claimants currently being reassessed?
Are we classed as new claimants or keep our current awards?
Confused.com
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Future claimants, however, will be subject to the PIP four-point rule and to the reduction in the LCWRA element of UC.''
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whether this is in 2029 or starting next year with a re-assessment before 2029, all rather confusing
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You sum up very well what I cant just now MW, its rubbish and we know it. All the main pieces are still there, plus there is absolutely no clarification of existing claimants v what happens at re assessment and what that means for any of us.
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existing claimants will continue to be assessed on the current criteria. New claims, I.e never claimed before or if you lose your current award after review and you claim again will have the 4 point’s criteria after 2026.
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From the dynamic duo . Rich is ex dwp and what he’s written is the way I read the concessions to mean . Obviously nothing is official from the government yet. I’m not convinced he’ll get it through anyway tbh
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So nothing changes Martnip. Still going to be persecuted and still being hoodwinked.
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It says it only affects new claimants, surely the people applying for the first time.
If you're being reassessed your not a new claimant which is why you still keep getting paid whilst being reassessed.
If your a new claimant you don't get paid until you've been awarded. How it seems to me anyway
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I know exactly how you feel Sarah , I begged my last assessor why am I always being assessed when there’s no cure . She was knowledgeable of my conditions and had my medical notes . Awarded me two years , dwp even knew it was too short and awarded 3 . My review forms on its way to me and I just migrated over to uc . One thing after another. But I do read this as those on pip get reassessed on the current system. So no change for us . I still think it needs voting down though as it’s two tier and not fair
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I've just seen on YouTube that the rebels are not happy with the concessions! And are still
to fight on!
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Hey everyone. Head on over to silver fox's channel on YouTube! It's not over till it's over! 😀
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Oh god these ....... surly mps must have some intelligence we are be used like a punch bag incredibly draining so it's same as before your OK till award runs out why can't they be taken court for lack of consultations I'm going to email meg hillier playing us like this
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I just emailed meg hillier saying why do this to us noting changed what was this all about am I missing something you take us on this merry go round to end up in the same position but worded different I'm raging how much more of this emotionall nightmare can we take they need to explain properly
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That’s what I think . I think there are short awards 1 year or perhaps 2 I’m not sure and when they come to an end you have to apply a fresh claim. It’s not the same as those who get reviewed . We also don’t know the finer details yet , hopefully there’s protection for those who move address etc and gave change of circumstances, but it does seem it’s for new claimants which still isn’t fair
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