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Meg hillier saying government been really listening and will protect claimants on pip so won't decrease ?? What does that even mean I've emailed her she won't get email till next month oh and yh said is keen to see people in work I asked her what they paying at with our life's totally different attitude completely
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Yes lady called MSwheelie she said one for all and no not happy with proposals
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I hope this is the case but I have no faith in any of it. I don't trust what we are told v what will/might happen, Guess we will just have to see how this pans out for all of us.
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Morning MW,
What I meant and probably wasn’t clear as my pain and fatigue bad was that information is coming out today . Right now it’s just the outlines . There are other protections we need to tell MPs about as they don’t understand pip.
The 13 week concession was already in the table and I don’t think this is the same . As I read it if those of us currently on pip come up for review we will be assessed under the current rules even after next November ( if it even passes) . Obviously that’s one thing I want to write to MPs about , what about a change of circumstances ie you may move address . Will your claim go with you . I imagine there’ll be finer details. But unless you lose pip and fail at MR and tribunal and upper tier if they’ve erred in law you keep under the rules as they are now . They know charities and activists will be going over it and I would think Starmer is worried now . As it is it’s still not guaranteed that it will pass . I wouldn’t be surprised if Tory’s vote against to scupper Starmer and say it’s due to the cuts being even lower .
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Morning Catherine,
It’ll be interesting to see the full concessions today ie change of circumstances having an affect. I’ll wait to see what the full concessions are and then send emails. Apparently sky have been told that the names on the amendment could still increase as not all MPs are happy. I wonder if Tory’s will vote against now as it isn’t going far enough
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Yh your right he's being stitched up backbenchers still not happy watch this space
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Hi passerby ,
I still don’t understand how to do it 😂. One minute guardian lets me view and then it says I’ve reached my free limit and offers me subscription choices. I can find anything that says URL and don’t know what that is 🤷♀️😂
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Morning mrsBB
For anyone who thinks they are safe, think again. The new 4 point qualifying PIP rule coming in November 2026, written directly into the bill, could leave any one of us vulnerable. Too many still believe they’ll be untouched, but once reassessments begin, that false sense of security will vanish, especially for those who end up on the wrong side of a PIP descriptor.
Let’s be honest, there is no genuine safety net. If MPs truly believe that a 13-week buffer can shield people from destitution, then they’ve not just lost sight of the reality on the ground, they’ve abandoned it entirely. It makes you wonder, what exactly were they rebelling against, if this thin concession is all it took to bring them back onside? Because this isn’t a solution. It’s a sticking plaster over a policy designed to fail the very people it claims to support.
Failing a PIP reassessment doesn’t lead to meaningful support. It starts a countdown, thirteen weeks on the clock until your disability support ends, and you’re left clinging to the vague promise of some future ‘employment insurance’, yet to be defined that I doubt many won’t even qualify for it. This isn’t a pathway into work, independence, or opportunity, it’s a freefall into poverty for those too unwell to even walk it, let alone keep pace with the government’s fantasy that everyone can, and should, be working.
I have always hated injustice and cruelty since I was a little girl and these political manoeuvres, dressed up as ‘concessions’, are soaked in both. And yes, I’ll be saying the above, loud and clear, to my MP at tomorrow’s public meeting.
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You will be assessed under the old PIP rules until the new rules come into force in November 2026. There are no plans to bring forward assessments for existing claimants. If your PIP reassessment takes place before November 2026, the old rules will apply. The only confirmed protection for existing claimants is, if you lose your PIP daily living entitlement solely because of the new rule at reassessment, you will receive a 13-week run-on of PIP daily living payments. There are no other automatic protections for existing claimants in the legislation as it stands.
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If this doesn't affect existent claimants then why waste money reassessing?
That my mind tells me it does affect us, otherwise they would just leave us alone.
Of course we will continue being persecuted by being reassessed.
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Emailing Meg Hillier is a good move. Every MP backing this needs to hear how damaging it is, and how exhausted people are from being treated like collateral. Your question about surely MP's have some intelligence well all I can say is if they do have intelligence, now would be a brilliant time to start using it.
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Its very difficult to keep up as so many members are posting new threads about these issues, rather than posting here and keeping it all in one place.
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This doesn't help the thousands still waiting to transfer from DLA to PIP because of the backlog. What will they do if they have any mass application to transfer?
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what's the latest with MP's who are still backing the amendment - how many ?
also with meg hillier backing the concessions wont she be withdrawing the amendment ?
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I’m confused as that was already a concession. They’ve said we will stay under old rules forever as long as we qualify. They already said we get 13 weeks TP . And we knew we would remain in the old rules until next November
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Jeremy Corbyn press release
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All this talk of PIP, what about those on ESA? I’m on contribution based support group, are we still getting thrown in to the fire? I’ve never claimed PIP because it terrifies me. These really are the worst times to be alive.
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Oh dear, Liz aint looking too happy is she, bet she's absolutely seething, hopefully out of a job too as well, nasty woman.2 -
The guardian, sorry I still can’t by pass paywall but if anyone can post screenshots on here would be appreciated. I think there’s a few different reports
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Hi Charlie,
Have you seen reeves lately 😂😂. She’s aged 10 years 😂
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