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  • charlie72
    charlie72 Online Community Member Posts: 252 Pioneering

    Hi, good they had it coming, a bit of Karma at least !!

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,908 Championing
  • geckobat
    geckobat Online Community Member Posts: 132 Empowering

    Didn't they say LCWRA current claimants keep it only if 'severely disabled'? It's no different to what they were already saying.

    I think they're going to screw us over in the Autumn budget. From what they're saying now about the cost. So when taxes rise in Autumn it'll be our fault in everyone's eyes.

  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 2,281 Trailblazing
    edited 11:34AM

    Absolutely, people like you and I, @YogiBear and @luvpink have been forgotten. However, the dashed Insurance-Based scheme is still being consulted on. We have to focus on how this issue proceeds beyond the end of this month.

  • geckobat
    geckobat Online Community Member Posts: 132 Empowering

    Same for me and Passerby too, the lot of us in the same situation and largely forgotten on the ESA/LCWRA side.

  • YogiBear
    YogiBear Online Community Member Posts: 319 Empowering

    There has been not mention of this whatsoever. Concerning.

  • Karl99
    Karl99 Online Community Member Posts: 3 Listener

    Thanks for replying. I hate this torture they’re putting us through. This is why I’ve been reluctant to claim PIP, all the anxiety it causes. I’m on my own, have no support and
    I’m terrified, I have the worst anxiety at the best of times, and all of this worry has amplified my conditions, my atrial fibrillation has never been so bad.

  • Martinp
    Martinp Online Community Member Posts: 231 Empowering
    edited 11:53AM

    Reading comments I’m so confused by all this.

    so when I’m reviewed in 2027 I won’t be protected and will be assessed under the new 4 point rule despite them saying I will be assessed under current conditions as I’m existing claimant.

    Don’t know whether I’m coming or going.

  • WelshBlue
    WelshBlue Online Community Member Posts: 777 Championing

    Maybe I'm being dense but I'm reading as any changes will affect new claimants … effectively creating a two tier system ?

    Not sure what's happening with LWRCA claimants needing to be awarded PIP to qualify

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,908 Championing

    I read it as you’ll be reviewed under the current system.

  • MW123
    MW123 Scope Member Posts: 1,310 Championing

    When the government or media say that people on benefits like PIP or Universal Credit are “protected” from upcoming changes, what they mean is that your current award won’t be affected immediately. But what they rarely make clear is that this protection is only temporary. It lasts only until your next scheduled review after the new rules come into force, currently set for November 2026.

    So while it might sound reassuring to hear that existing claimants are “safe” from the changes, the reality is very different. Once your case is reviewed under the new system, your eligibility and the amount you receive could change significantly. The current rules will only apply for the duration of your existing award, after that, the new, and often stricter, regulations will kick in.

    That’s why it’s so important to understand that this so-called “protection” isn’t permanent. It’s transitional, and it hinges entirely on the timing of your next review. Unfortunately, this detail is often buried in the small print, not clearly spelled out in headlines or press releases.

  • Jamk85
    Jamk85 Online Community Member Posts: 49 Empowering

    Yes the current system that i am aware of to?

    But if you were to fail the assessment and you get the final 13 weeks PIP, but not sure how this works if you were to go to tribunal to get your award back? the 13 week bit does worry me little with our rights to appeal?

    the LWRCA part that i am aware of is for new claims so after 2026/november those on severely disabled but does not affect current claimants until 2029.

    It is all rather confusing.

  • Jamk85
    Jamk85 Online Community Member Posts: 49 Empowering

    They are so sneaky with this.

    let's hope this does not pass on tuesday!

  • MW123
    MW123 Scope Member Posts: 1,310 Championing

    The appeals process is expected to remain in place after the new rules come in from November 2026. The right to challenge a decision about your entitlement to benefits is a standard part of the UK system and is not being removed by the new reforms.

  • Tumilty
    Tumilty Online Community Member Posts: 308 Empowering

    I think if your already in the system and have been on pip and your award has ended then you get a reassessment it doesn't class as a new claim as you get a small form to fill in near end of award asking if you still warrant pip then a phone call some time later as what just happened to me. Hopefully I'm correct 🤞

  • Jamk85
    Jamk85 Online Community Member Posts: 49 Empowering

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    It leaves a great many questions unanswered.  And as amendments to the bill will not be published before Tuesday's vote, it means MPs will have to vote without actually knowing what they are ultimately agreeing to.'' 

    this is a trap!

  • WelshBlue
    WelshBlue Online Community Member Posts: 777 Championing
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    Sky News ^

    I read it as being 2 systems … existing claimants and those new ones after Nov 26 being assessed with the new criteria. ?

    Or is my wife right … "for an intelligient man … you really are thick sometimes …"

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,908 Championing

    But we don’t know the small details yet . They’ve actually said it won’t affect current claimants after November 26 and will only then affect new claimants. They seem so far to have made that clear. We are already protected till next year as everyone is so they can’t claim this is a new concession as it’s not . They’ve said we will be assessed under current rules. What we need to be mindful of is the length of award . My assessor apart from steering me towards the 2 points when in my form I should have gotten 4 points she also awarded me 2 years . That can be classed as a short award that isn’t reviewed it just stops and you apply a fresh claim. That was even though I have incurable conditions which she was knowledgeable of . Luckily the dwp increased it to 3 years . That’s where the assessors will try and catch us out .IMO

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 6,718 Championing

    They where rebelling against starmer that's it against him

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 6,718 Championing

    And I emailed meg hillier that do interview on tv oh all is great government listening and we do want people back into work I emailed her and said what wad the point of that your playing with our life's from one extreme to the other I hate injustice too I really do let's see still all is not well at number 10 sickening

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