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Yep exactly, just a play on words as I wrote when I hammered my keyboard earlier 😁
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DIdn't Timms say the majority engaged and represented in the review will be disabled people and disability groups? I think that was another concession.
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Hi Dav1d ,
Does this mean as long as you fit the descriptor criteria you’re eligible for scc for pip and lcwra and you don’t have to have symptoms constantly but most of the time ?
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I think the Spinal Injuries Association are upbeat about it. However I wish a shared their enthusiasm. I don't trust the government one bit. I predict they'll sneak something through to do with ESA without much challenge. My concerns are what will the new descriptors be for PIP coming down the line. One thing is for sure it won't be to our advantage. Sorry I don't mean to be downbeat tonight.
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I think we need to record every assessment so they know they can’t lie . Don’t even rely on them recording as they played a trick on me last time.
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I must have missed that! Assuming he did say it, and he honours that statement, then that's good news.
I'm afraid I just don't trust him. I think he's slippery, is adept at playing semantics, and has his eyes firmly set on a seat in the Lords.
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I'm getting overwhelmed trying to catch up on what's been happening.
But has anything else been said on diagnosis only accepted if by NHS doctors? As in them reconsidering?
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We didn't know that S. Timms was such an evil until about two months go! Many of us always thought that he was even in the government to defend disabled people, when in fact he's as evil as Kendall.
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Hi YogiBear, I feel the same way. They are determined to claw back/save money from welfare cuts and they will one way or another. I believe the descriptors will be altered and they wont be to our advantage. I have felt it all along, all assessments will be made much more difficult, the criteria/threshold will be changed upwards and a play on words will be used. When that happens we will be stuck with it as the powers that be will say, ''well we have the Timms review/consultation, we spoke to the disabled blah blah'', lets see what they actually take onboard from said consultations. Its still all one big ploy in my opinion.
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Sound familiar ? 2019 ! I posted about this in March when the merged assessments in the Green paper were announced and will now still go ahead. The DWP/Gov at the time were to carry out a small scale test/study on a select number of areas in the UK to see how merging the two assessments faired, what the outcome would be and if it would work. I have brought this up now because I never did find any evidence that this small scale study was conducted.
This was the response at that time to the above from Disability Rights UK. It still rings true today.
SCOPE hosted the event above, first link. I am just wondering if SCOPE has access to historical data re that small scale test of merging the two assessments ?
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Hi, I'm still not fully understanding what everything means...Could someone tell me what happens to me in my situation.
I get LCWRA, Was awarded this in March 2024, This was to be reviewed within 12 months, As of yet I e not heard anything. Will I lose this come next year?
Pip wise I get standard mobility, Daily living I scored 4 points so didn't qualify for that. This gets reviewed June next year, Should I try again for the daily living element?
Thanks in advance for any replies
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Hi SS,
I believe that is what it means yes.
That is certainly almost definitely what he seems to be saying. Short of any retraction.
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My thinking is just my thinking if you have more than one diagnosis that could be constantly where one may have moments of clarity pain free could be over ridden by another diagnosis that takes over so constant and also triggers that make illness worse like being round people work controlling emotions ect we have given this our all it's passed noting we can do gather all medical evidence and fight because this has taken us to hell and back and we are still standing oh I can imagine them celebrating but remember they have broken so many human rights and they recieved a letter from un stating they have strong evidence of this !! Watch this space ps if I find my mp voted for this I will send my last ever email stating I will do everything in my power come may I organise a group in my area to get him out I sent him 50 emails voice messages me and millions because come may they will be scared uncertain frightened they will lose everything just like we have been for months !!!!And we have our say then this was the time to prove who was a good mp over shadowed beautiful wonderful mps who stood and spoke from the heart and soul they must be shattered and thanked they wanted this as much as we did I cried my mental health gone to pieces we will have to come down from months of this I couldn't have got through this without any of you including people last year ❤️ I'm preying the human right part of all this is what will bring them down the next fight pip but we would have reserved our energy for that they haven't won because they cheated did cowards way well starmers way doesn't like people to have opinions or challenge the bill because the Lords would have shredded it here's to another day my good friends peace to us all allow ourselves that break noting happening immediately and hopefully something amazing happens before then
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Yep and 16 to 22 years old can't claim I don't think that was even discussed so are we all going to be forced on pathway to work I just give up amd I tell you all those MPs who voted for this come may get them out !! Heartbroken tired scared overwhelmed
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Noting can't be challenged in court Noting vote all Labour mps who voted for this in may I feel despair too I can imagine we are all pretty low
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I just feel sorrow sorry I just don't trust them as so much on pip which is fantastic but the protection for disabled people who can't work will we be forced to Pathways to work job coaches that will do tailored packages ?
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AAh Smart God they make my blood boil
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Intreasting because we actually have a letter from United nations stating many human rights violations
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This is on the gov website. So if you are waiting to be moved to uc , do you fall as new claimants who get less ? Also what do the clarify as severe conditions
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Err, actually no, I take that back, according to Latest on UC and PIP bill as Labour gets through third reading
Severe conditions criteria
There have been no changes to the extremely hard to meet severe conditions criteria as set out in the bill. These will come into force for new claims in April 2026 and will decide whether claimants receive the higher rate of the UC health element and whether they are subject to reassessment..
Timms did seek to reassure MPs claiming:
"The severe conditions criteria in the bill exactly reflects how the functional tests are applied at present. That is in guidance. It’s being moved in this bill into legislation. It does take account of Parkinson’s. It does take account of MS. Because people need to meet the descriptors reliably, safely, repeatedly and in a reasonable time frame. And so I can give a very firm assurance to those who are concerned about how the severe conditions criteria will work for those on fluctuating conditions.
"The word constantly here refers, as I said in my intervention earlier, to the functional criteria needing to apply at all times, not to somebody’s symptoms."
We consider this reassurance to be disingenuous. We’ll be writing more about this in the near future.
So, looks like Timms and Co are lying, trying to pull a fast one, sharp practising sharks, and wideboys, were in government we can do whatever we want, in comparison to you plebs in every other industry and profession, your rules dont apply to us etc etc..
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