Universal Credit Review - data protection breach!

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  • Albus_Alumni
    Albus_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 11,373 Championing

    Hi @hel123 Regarding the treatment of asylum seekers, the UK Government provides basic support to ensure their immediate needs are met while their applications are processed. This includes accommodation and essential services, but it's important to note that these measures are temporary and aimed at ensuring humane treatment. The process for asylum seekers is governed by strict regulations, and they do not receive the full benefits allocated to UK citizens and residents. For more detailed information, you might find it helpful to refer to resources such as the UK Government website or organisations like Refugee Council.

    On the topic of Universal Credit (UC) and the request for identification and bank statements, as said previously, it is part of the standard verification process to ensure that benefits are distributed correctly. If you believe there is misuse of legislation or feel your rights are being infringed, pursuing formal complaints or freedom of information requests, as you mentioned, can be effective ways to address these concerns.

    Regarding your point on how individuals with no identification pass checks, the process for asylum seekers involves extensive background checks and interviews. Citizenship is not granted without thorough vetting.

    I understand that these issues can be frustrating and complex, and I encourage you to continue seeking information from reliable sources. If you have further questions or need assistance, please feel free to reach out and we'll do our best to find the information for you.

  • Albus_Alumni
    Albus_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 11,373 Championing
    edited August 2025

    I can see there's a bit of confusion there.

    Taken from the Oxford dictionary;
    "asylum seeker

    noun
    noun: asylum seeker; plural noun: asylum seekers
    a person who has left their home country as a political refugee and is seeking asylum in another.
    "only asylum seekers who are granted refugee status are allowed to work in the country"

    Asylum seekers are not legally obliged to claim asylum in the first safe country they reach; international law and the 1951 Refugee Convention do not require it. However, a country's domestic asylum law (such as UK law,) can make claims inadmissible if the person passed through a safe country where they could have claimed protection. 

    But thank you for sharing your perspective. If you could provide links or sources for the information you've mentioned, it would be greatly appreciated. As per our House Rules, we aim to ensure that all discussions are based on verified information and we do not allow opinion to be given as fact. Your cooperation in maintaining this standard is valued.

  • Albus_Alumni
    Albus_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 11,373 Championing

    I feel we may have veered slightly off course here, so I think it'd be best if we stick to talking about the DWP and benefits system as per the original discussion. 😊

  • Albus_Alumni
    Albus_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 11,373 Championing

    Again, I'll have to ask you to read the house rules carefully @hel123


    Thank you for your cooperation.

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 6,173 Championing
    edited August 2025

    Lina, you said, "They even are given 5 start hotels, free meals, and £47 each week!"

    It's £49.18 a week WITHOUT accommodation.

    If your accommodation provides your meals you’ll get £9.95 for each person in your household instead.

    Call them 1 star HOSTELS instead because that's what they are. Room-sharing with strangers is not luxury. Do you know how much we pay for Iain Duncan Smith's breakfasts?

    I am given money to pay rent and bills. Half of what I eat comes from a food bank but I'm grateful and I do not envy the pittance that asylum seekers receive.

    You will need to find and pay for your own solicitor; nobody here can help. Protest all you want about this intrusion by the Department for Work and Pensions but racial hatred and misinformation are not permitted on this site. There are plenty of other platforms for that!

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 6,173 Championing

    How old are you?? 🙄

  • Kimi87
    Kimi87 Community Member Posts: 8,986 Championing

    You need 25 posts before you can PM.

    It's likely an anti spam measure.

  • Ray212
    Ray212 Community Member Posts: 735 Empowering
    edited August 2025

    Before making such bizarre comments, maybe understand that the PM's aren't limited just for you. You need a certain amount of posts.

  • Kimi87
    Kimi87 Community Member Posts: 8,986 Championing

    At the end of the day if people don't like the Scope platform, they are free to pay for, create and run an online platform elsewhere where they can set the rules.

  • Community_Scope
    Community_Scope Posts: 2,434 Online Community Team


    As Kimi has said, you need 25 points before you can send private messages, this is to stop bad actors and scammers from taking advantage of the option.

  • Community_Scope
    Community_Scope Posts: 2,434 Online Community Team

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    We will review it and if we are satisfied the discussion can continue, we will hope to un-pause it by the end of today.

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  • Albus_Alumni
    Albus_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 11,373 Championing

    Hi again @Lina31 just to let you know I've had to edit your comment as again, it contained misinformation. Please read the house rules for more information.

    Regarding the DWP, they are within their rights to ask you to confirm your identity, this is to stop people from abusing the system. Any solicitor will say the same thing I'm afraid. If you do not cooperate, then they can stop your benefits, so I'd urge you to please comply with their request.

  • Albus_Alumni
    Albus_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 11,373 Championing

    We are all entitled to our opinions @Lina31 of course we are. But you cannot give your opinion as fact, that is against the house rules.

    The checks are legal and it's perfectly routine for them to do so. This is typically done to verify you are who you say you are and to check your income, savings, or other financial circumstances, which are factors that can affect the amount of Universal Credit you receive. They are also there to stop people from illegally claiming benefits, or to stop them from claiming, then sending the money overseas.

    To say these checks are unlawful is spreading misinformation, in fact the law entitles the DWP to request the statements and if you don’t provide them then your claim could be negatively affected. Please remember that, as we don't want you losing out on any benefits.

    But best of luck with your search for a solicitor.

  • Albus_Alumni
    Albus_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 11,373 Championing

    The DWP can rightfully ask for full bank statements by law, as set out in the Social Security Administration Act 1992 and The Social Security Fraud Act 2021, this is fact @Lina31 and it is the law currently. I've linked to both just in case you wanted to have a read through. 😊 But I do understand that people would rather the DWP don't see everything on their bank statements.

    The Britcard discussion would be opening a whole new kettle of fish! Personally, I don't think it's a great idea at all. 😆

  • Albus_Alumni
    Albus_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 11,373 Championing

    Hey @Lina31 I've removed two of your comments as they were duplicates. All members of the community can see your posts, as it's a public forum, so there's no need to post and tag individual members. 😊

  • durhamjaide2001
    durhamjaide2001 Scope Member Posts: 15,450 Championing

    you can meet us for a virtual coffee in the coffee lounge

  • Slopii
    Slopii Community Member Posts: 3 Connected

    Hi Albus

    Thanks for sharing this, could you link the specific paragraphs you are referring too? I am struggling to find what you say is there but its very long and complicated.

  • Albus_Alumni
    Albus_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 11,373 Championing

    I can't I'm afraid @Slopii as I'm leading today and have a lot of people needing support, so I don't have the time to research it. But it's it's a power derived from the anti-fraud legislation, that I can say with certainty.

  • Holly_Alumni
    Holly_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 6,534 Championing

    Where possible we like all discussions to continue, but we’re choosing to pause this discussion for now so things can cool down and we can review it. For more information, please read our online community house rules. Misinformation and personal attacks are not allowed.

    We will review it and if we are satisfied the discussion can continue, we will hope to un-pause it by the end of today.