Is Scope Disability Friendly anymore?

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  • baller
    baller Posts: 29 Connected

    think about how your words effect me thats so mean you didnt agree with me and are being pinickity boohooooooo

  • baller
    baller Posts: 29 Connected

    what even are you arguing about because i said the rules say dont be a jerk? Serious??

    they say to be civil and be polite and respectful which to me means dont be a jerk

  • Adrian_Scope
    Adrian_Scope Posts: 14,642 Online Community Programme Lead

    Hi all,

    It looks like this conversation is getting a little heated. We’d like to keep the discussion open, but please remember that comments need to stay within the house rules.

    If the discussion is starting to feel frustrating or upsetting, it might help to take a short step back and return later with a fresh perspective. If anything breaks the house rules, please report the post and let us deal with it rather than trying to respond.

    Debate is healthy and it is good to hear a range of perspectives but let’s try to keep the conversation constructive and respectful so everyone can take part.

  • Bluebell21
    Bluebell21 Community Member Posts: 5,941 Championing

    @MW123

    Please do not insult my intelligence by suggesting I misunderstood your meaning. I did not. It is just this kind of comment that causes friction on the forum.

    I have now said all I need to say on this subject and will not be commenting further on this thread.

  • luvpink
    luvpink Community Member Posts: 5,366 Championing
    edited March 8

    @Bluebell21

    I feel the same regarding comments made to be by @baller

    I will also be leaving this discussion.

  • Adrian_Scope
    Adrian_Scope Posts: 14,642 Online Community Programme Lead

    We have had to remove some comments as they were targeted at another member. There have already been several reminders about the conduct we expect in this discussion, and I’d like to issue a final reminder:

    If anyone else wishes to share feedback, please avoid naming or criticising other members in this thread. If you have concerns about specific interactions, please report them directly so we can review them fairly.

    This applies to all members. Attempting to skirt the rules through indirect references or careful wording that still targets other members is not appropriate and will be treated the same way.

    Any further breaches may result in stronger action being taken.

  • baller
    baller Posts: 29 Connected

    why has my comment gone?

    people need to know if you care about people mental health, then leave them alone

    every one needs to stop picking on people because they dont write as well or you dont agree with them, writing better doesnt make you smarter or right

    you can be a jerk by telling someone to bog off, but you can also be a jerk by picking on there words an talking them in circles because you have to be right or think you know better

    words still matter even if they are flowered up and fancy

  • chiarieds
    chiarieds Community Member Posts: 17,415 Championing

    I'll not say much more lest my words get misconstrued.

    What I take away about being a member of this forum is that you need to abide by the House rules, but the Scope team will always use their discretion in dealing with any issues.

    It would be naive to think that the Scope team don't get to know us, & our intent (as well as anybody can), but the main thing is that this is a safe & civil space for everyone.

    All sorts of things have been brought up in response to rubin's query even tho new members, different ways of communicating, 'Ranks,' etc., don't seem to be a part of the problem from what other members have said.

    When the Scope team have noticed, ''a rise in comments that, while sometimes ambiguous in wording, can come across as passive-aggressive, sarcastic, or needling'' as mentioned on p3 of this thread, together with saying, ''dismissive reactions, sarcastic responses, or comments that undermine others’ contributions are not acceptable'' then members are not imagining the problems they've identified.

    Safety & safeguarding I appreciate are a very integral part of this community.

    I think we are all mindful that our disability community has members with many & varied problems; I think we are all agreed that everybody matters equally, something the Scope team uphold, & I have therefore been saddened to see some of the comments in this thread.

    I believe we all want to work together to keep this a safe & supportive community.

    @Adrian_Scope - may I make a couple of suggestions:

    - I think something like this used to be in the House Rules - ''Please be careful what you say. Not everyone shares the same sense of humour!'' - might it be helpful to add something like this back in?

    - I think there had been some discussion previously about the use of the word 'Ranks' as it might be construed that one member seems 'more important than another.' - It had been said that perhaps the use of the word 'Levels' might be better - personally I would do away with them altogether if a way of enabling a member to edit their posts could be obtained by other means; I don't know what others think.

  • Bluebell21
    Bluebell21 Community Member Posts: 5,941 Championing
    edited March 9

    Although I was not going to comment further on this thread, I feel I have no choice when a classic example of passive aggressive behaviour is directed at me.

    To start any post with a sentence and I quote "I'll not say much more lest my words get misconstrued" adds nothing to any thread.

    To follow this up with and I quote " All sorts of things have been brought up in response to Rubin's query even though new members, different ways of communicating, "Ranks" etc don't seem to be part of the problem from what other members said" is a nonsense.

    Communication has been mentioned on nearly every single page and how members might not understand how what they write impacts others.

    Rubin's original question was "Do you find Scope non-friendly, toxic and not disability friendly"

    As far as I can see all responses are showing where other members have identified why they think this might be.

    Members should be working together for a safe and supportive forum for all.

  • chiarieds
    chiarieds Community Member Posts: 17,415 Championing

    Thank you @Emilee - I was only trying to sum up what I felt & thought about this discussion, & you read me correctly. Thank you @Santosha12 for your kindness too; I appreciate you both.

  • chiarieds
    chiarieds Community Member Posts: 17,415 Championing

    Thank you so much @Catherine21 - this community is important to us all, & you are an important part of the community.

    I'd also be interested into what you may take away from the comments here too @Community_Scope - I do so hope that, whatever we've said, & however poorly perceived some of us may have come across to others here, that the issues raised by several members have been acknowledged as genuine concerns.

    I also hope that this isn't considered just another discussion that will quietly go away, thank you. As @Ross1975 put it, ''it's a shame that some people spoil it for the vast majority, but luckily there are a lot of nice people on here including myself who like to help and support others.''

  • Community_Scope
    Community_Scope Posts: 2,460 Online Community Team
    https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1110835#Comment_1110835

    Thanks for asking. Yes, the feedback shared here has been taken on board internally. All feedback whether raised in discussions like this or elsewhere, is considered thoughtfully, reviewed by the online community team and any relevant learnings will be embedded in future best practice.

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