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Roddy said:DWP = Decisions Without Proficiency
PIP = Professional Incompetence. Period.
ESA = Exist Suffering Alone
UC = Unethical Conduct
What beneficial Benefit will they introduce next?
DII? Disability Is Idleness?
YPIO Your Putting It On?
The world is their oyster... Perhaps they should have a referendum eh? You know, put it to the proper people: The able-bodied 'we're-all-right-mob' and those that don't know 'jack' about what it's like to be treated with total disregard or respect, of do they think that all disability is a matter of personal choice? There is more intelligence in one of my walking sticks than the entire workforce at the Department of Works and Pensions.Roddy said:DWP = Decisions Without Proficiency
PIP = Professional Incompetence. Period.
ESA = Exist Suffering Alone
UC = Unethical Conduct
What beneficial Benefit will they introduce next?
DII? Disability Is Idleness?
YPIO Your Putting It On?
The world is their oyster... Perhaps they should have a referendum eh? You know, put it to the proper people: The able-bodied 'we're-all-right-mob' and those that don't know 'jack' about what it's like to be treated with total disregard or respect, of do they think that all disability is a matter of personal choice? There is more intelligence in one of my walking sticks than the entire workforce at the Department of Works and Pensions.
Different subject, but with very similar overtones.
I have no hearing in my right ear. Some years ago, I joined a free Adult Ed programme for lip reading. The next set of lessons became payable for. When questioned why this had changed. The answer was that lip reading had been put under the category of `pastimes and hobbies`. Oh yeh, like we CHOSE to be deaf, like we choose to make a raffia basket! I left the class.
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Well, the horror stories keep rolling in!
It`s like reading from a horror book. So many of us have been labelled as liars..cheating our way to get PIP.
Have you ALL signed the petition? Incase some haven't, here is the link;
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/274312
Many thanks xxx
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Yeh, good idea. Admin did say I could post it. Thanks
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pollyanna1052 said:Roddy said:DWP = Decisions Without Proficiency
PIP = Professional Incompetence. Period.
ESA = Exist Suffering Alone
UC = Unethical Conduct
What beneficial Benefit will they introduce next?
DII? Disability Is Idleness?
YPIO Your Putting It On?
The world is their oyster... Perhaps they should have a referendum eh? You know, put it to the proper people: The able-bodied 'we're-all-right-mob' and those that don't know 'jack' about what it's like to be treated with total disregard or respect, of do they think that all disability is a matter of personal choice? There is more intelligence in one of my walking sticks than the entire workforce at the Department of Works and Pensions.Roddy said:DWP = Decisions Without Proficiency
PIP = Professional Incompetence. Period.
ESA = Exist Suffering Alone
UC = Unethical Conduct
What beneficial Benefit will they introduce next?
DII? Disability Is Idleness?
YPIO Your Putting It On?
The world is their oyster... Perhaps they should have a referendum eh? You know, put it to the proper people: The able-bodied 'we're-all-right-mob' and those that don't know 'jack' about what it's like to be treated with total disregard or respect, of do they think that all disability is a matter of personal choice? There is more intelligence in one of my walking sticks than the entire workforce at the Department of Works and Pensions.
Different subject, but with very similar overtones.
I have no hearing in my right ear. Some years ago, I joined a free Adult Ed programme for lip reading. The next set of lessons became payable for. When questioned why this had changed. The answer was that lip reading had been put under the category of `pastimes and hobbies`. Oh yeh, like we CHOSE to be deaf, like we choose to make a raffia basket! I left the class.
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justdon said:I was wondering whether posting a new thread specifically emphasing this petition could help ??I have signed btw ..x
I`ve posted the petition on Coffee Lounge, as it may have got `buried` in the benefits page.xx -
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A friend of mine has put it on facebook. She is disabled and is on a lower level of PIP than her GP thinks she should be on and she daren`t fight it!
Just gonna check how many are on it now.....will come back
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5649.....a long way to go....
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Everything needs a re-think, doesn't it @justdon. Most systems are so antiquated that they do not cater for the needs of the modern world. I don't know the answer or how much the costs are for running a country, but then again neither do those who supposedly govern with their own implemented rules. We all hear about our local authorities struggling to finance their communities etc., and yet they soon manage to finance the cash to tart-up their offices! There is only one thing wrong with the NHS, and that is the decisions made by a Health Minister who's only ability is to shout 'here here' in the House of Fools in Westminster. They can't even get their own camp in order, and so how can we be expected to depend on the Muppets? Year in year out they run about like headless chickens and achieve jack **** during the process. REAL PEOPLES LIVES & WELBEING are at the mercy of these 'F**k-Wits' and yet STILL they don't have the acumen to give a brass farthing. It's no laughing joke, unless you're sadistic.
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pollyanna1052 said:5649.....a long way to go....
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Roddy said:pollyanna1052 said:Roddy said:DWP = Decisions Without Proficiency
PIP = Professional Incompetence. Period.
ESA = Exist Suffering Alone
UC = Unethical Conduct
What beneficial Benefit will they introduce next?
DII? Disability Is Idleness?
YPIO Your Putting It On?
The world is their oyster... Perhaps they should have a referendum eh? You know, put it to the proper people: The able-bodied 'we're-all-right-mob' and those that don't know 'jack' about what it's like to be treated with total disregard or respect, of do they think that all disability is a matter of personal choice? There is more intelligence in one of my walking sticks than the entire workforce at the Department of Works and Pensions.Roddy said:DWP = Decisions Without Proficiency
PIP = Professional Incompetence. Period.
ESA = Exist Suffering Alone
UC = Unethical Conduct
What beneficial Benefit will they introduce next?
DII? Disability Is Idleness?
YPIO Your Putting It On?
The world is their oyster... Perhaps they should have a referendum eh? You know, put it to the proper people: The able-bodied 'we're-all-right-mob' and those that don't know 'jack' about what it's like to be treated with total disregard or respect, of do they think that all disability is a matter of personal choice? There is more intelligence in one of my walking sticks than the entire workforce at the Department of Works and Pensions.
Different subject, but with very similar overtones.
I have no hearing in my right ear. Some years ago, I joined a free Adult Ed programme for lip reading. The next set of lessons became payable for. When questioned why this had changed. The answer was that lip reading had been put under the category of `pastimes and hobbies`. Oh yeh, like we CHOSE to be deaf, like we choose to make a raffia basket! I left the class.i'm sure there is corruption at the heart of this.many government insiders have financial interests in these companies. there is a moral and financial conflict of interests and financial greed is driving how the assessments are conducted. -
justdon said:@Roddy ....yet another stumbling block we face ..how can we present evidence when we are forced to wait months and sometimes years to get an initial appointment ?And then months or even years for a diagnosis ?I have had severe pain with sciatica for coming on two years ..i have been backwards and forwards from the GP regarding this disabling problem for well over 18 months .i saw a physio last year ...nothing was said !....and have only NOW been told i have spinal stenonis..a year and a HALF later ...This is another reason(amongst many) why we are slipping through the net .
They a are VILE and abhorrent to the core. Whatever happened to Customer Service, eh? They couldn't serve a poxy tennis ball, and they've absolutely zilch from their ongoing catalogue of errors, mistakes and countless wrong decisions. The entire system, sucks and at OUR expense. I was in tears at my assessment, and I've only ever cried before at funerals. Heartless the lot of them. They KNOW I cannot walk and yet they forced me to travel TWENTY MILES, on three separate occasions to get to their Interrogation Centre For The Elderly Sick & Disabled. From 2pm until 5:30pm without any drink or even the offer of one... "Hurry Up we haven't got all day!" and neither have I got 2 years to waste kicking your ass into order.
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justdon said:@roddy ..yet again there is nothing you say that i could possibly disagree with ...It does reduce you to tears ..it is also very harmful for our mental health ..but who gives a sh** about that !I have been failed by the system repeatedly since the day i was born ...and im STILL fighting ..47 years later .And you know what ?i will continue to fight in any way i possibly am still able ...Not because i believe i will get anywhere or be listened to ?but because it is the right thing to do ..Even if it kills me ..and to be honest ..it wouldnt suprise me if it did !let alone the periods of severe depression and suicidal ideation i have been through it is a constant physical deterioration too ..and just like you said ..any healing that has taken place is simply unravelled the minute we have to deal with these people yet again or try to wrap our heads around yet another totally gobbledygook form .I hear someone on some sick doctors programme yesterday talking about how the future looks "bright" for mental health sufferers ...i mean ?people are actually believing this stuff ??I hold the system directly responsible for what has happened to me over the course of my life time.And countless others.I too have been abused by assessment centre staff and complaints have had to be made (not that they will ever be taken seriously or admitted to of course)Have been reduced to tears by the downright open preducice and rudeness of some of them ..Not to mention from other people who are meant to be in positions of "care"What can we do tho when this is what we are up against ??I love your posts btw ..because you voice the actual TRUTH of whats really happening out here ..Thankyou !
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