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  • 2oldcodgers
    2oldcodgers Posts: 739 Connected
    MW123 said:

    @2oldcodgers

    Please consider the potential impact of your messages on the community as you express your personal viewpoints. I recommend reviewing the link below before making any further comments, as it seems your remarks have deviated from the main topic. The ongoing discussion is not related to bankruptcy, and understanding the information in the link is crucial for context.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/fighting-fraud-in-the-welfare-system/fighting-fraud-in-the-welfare-system--2


    Noted. What I have tried to put out there is that these changes that are hoped for by the DWP already exist for many other government departments. It's not a new idea at all, it just is to give the DWP the same powers. 
  • 2oldcodgers
    2oldcodgers Posts: 739 Connected
    letitbe said:
    Yeah , seems really contradictory to me. 
     I hope this person isn’t scaremongering for the sake of it , a forum where a lot of us suffer anxiety would be massively inconsiderate. 
    No it has never been my intention to scaremonger.
    As for my comments being contradictory all I can say that for all of my life I have tried to help others besides myself. There is no way that I could stop the PIP money for care. There is no system in place where people like myself that have no extra care costs could stop that element.

    I am happy in knowing that instead I am helping others with the money I don't need.  
  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,590 Championing
    edited November 2023

    2oldcodgers 

    It doesn't help the rest of us when you tell the world you receive disability benefits you don't need  :/

    Judging others from a place of safety or position of authority is all too easy 

  • Lou67
    Lou67 Community Member Posts: 8,747 Championing

    @letitbe
    Oh that’s amazing well done.
  • Lou67
    Lou67 Community Member Posts: 8,747 Championing

    As for @2oldcodgers
    Im actually sitting here shocked and absolutely disgusted that you have went on and on and on about people MISSPENDING their money, meanwhile you are giving your benefit away every 4 weeks.
    I can’t believe you are admitting this on a public forum. I’m not sure if it’s arrogance or you see nothing wrong with this. 🤦‍♀️
  • Tonawanda17
    Tonawanda17 Community Member Posts: 183 Contributor
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/11/05/benefit-fraud-bank-checks-autumn-statement-mel-stride/

    Found this: also just speculation?
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community Member Posts: 64,456 Championing
    Tonawanda17 said:
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/11/05/benefit-fraud-bank-checks-autumn-statement-mel-stride/

    Found this: also just speculation?
    That’s exactly what this very thread is about. Yes…. Speculation, as we continue to advise you. 
  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,590 Championing

    If there's a loophole in the system then it won't help anyone waiting the extra seven years (maybe more) for the privilege of retirement with top-ups but no private pension   


  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Community Member Posts: 3,449 Championing
    edited November 2023
    Tonawanda17 said:
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/11/05/benefit-fraud-bank-checks-autumn-statement-mel-stride/

    Found this: also just speculation?
    That is not specifically "disability" benefits more "out of work" benefits.
    More of a concern is BBC News - Welfare cuts worth billions planned by ministers
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community Member Posts: 64,456 Championing
    Wibbles said:
    Tonawanda17 said:
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/11/05/benefit-fraud-bank-checks-autumn-statement-mel-stride/

    Found this: also just speculation?
    That is not specifically "disability" benefits more "out of work" benefits

    The question wasn't asking about disability benefits. This thread is related to exactly what that link mentions. It's just that someone mentioned disability benefits in this thread and the conversation continued around that for part of the thread.
  • Roddy123
    Roddy123 Community Member Posts: 47 Contributor
    Although i have nothing to hide i do feel this is far to intrusive on our personal space.
  • Strawberry1
    Strawberry1 Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 9,133 Championing
    I agree with you @Roddy123 totally. 
  • Tonawanda17
    Tonawanda17 Community Member Posts: 183 Contributor
    Hi, i am posting on here just incase someone can help. Did post under a new topic a few days ago but nondoy knew the answer. I used to get the old incapacity benefit but can remember if i got income support along with it. Does anyone remember how much the income support part was if you got incapacity. I know this is an old one. Thanks?
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community Member Posts: 64,456 Championing
    edited November 2023
    Tonawanda17 said:
    Hi, i am posting on here just incase someone can help. Did post under a new topic a few days ago but nondoy knew the answer. I used to get the old incapacity benefit but can remember if i got income support along with it. Does anyone remember how much the income support part was if you got incapacity. I know this is an old one. Thanks?
    No one knew the answer? I did answer your question on your thread. See thread https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/90444/esa-confusion#latest

    Income Support would not have been included in your IB payments. Income Support was a separate benefit which you would have needed to claim as a top up. How much you would have been entitled to would depend on your circumstances. 

    IB was a contributions based benefit only.

    Can I ask the reason why you’re asking these questions after 10 years of claiming ESA? 
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community Member Posts: 64,456 Championing
    @Tonawanda17 did you do as i advised and request the information DWP hold on you? You can do that here. https://secure.dwp.gov.uk/personal-information-request/name doing this will mean you'll get the answers you're asking. You can request the last 2 years of your IB claim but you'll need the dates for this.

  • Tonawanda17
    Tonawanda17 Community Member Posts: 183 Contributor
    Thanks very much
  • honestjon
    honestjon Community Member Posts: 173 Empowering
    vikingqueen said:
     If you have nothing to hide there is nothing to worry about. 
    I would suggest there could be something to worry about if it is true that the dwp will be given powers of arrest. 
    Who in their right mind would think the dwp can be trusted with the power to arrest anyone?
  • Tonawanda17
    Tonawanda17 Community Member Posts: 183 Contributor
    Hi. Found this on another thread.
    Thoughts please.

    The document stated that much of the legislation used by the DWP’s counter-fraud officers is “now decades old”. It said the government would introduce measures to improve access to data and enforcement:

    “Subject to parliamentary time, we will legislate to update their powers to boost access to data from third parties and carry out arrests and searches and seize evidence. This will enable them to act more quickly to identify, detect and disrupt fraud, particularly from organised criminal gangs and wider economic crime. We will also bring in a new civil financial penalty, so more fraudsters pay for their crimes.”

  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community Member Posts: 64,456 Championing
    @Tonawanda17 again, that’s the same as what we’ve been talking about here and we are over 10 pages into the thread. 

    DWP can already access back accounts if they suspect fraud so nothing new there. 
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