About the PM's (Sunak's) speech: Stop demonising us
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all this is hurting my head I wish they would just leave us alone
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I don't know why they brought in UC , benefits were ok as they are. They make things so difficult and treats us harshly and like criminals. Having mental health problems and physical health issues are hard enough to deal with, without all this worry and being tarnished by the tories and media as scroungers.
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Whoever is making decisions for us, we just need to find ways of ensuring they are taking our feelings and experiences into consideration. The consultation is one possibility, emailing new MPs is another if you are lucky enough to have one (I'm not, mine probably has already had enough of my emails about the DWP, LOL, although he did help me with my PIP claim back in 2017 so he's not all bad). And just supporting organisations like SCOPE because for some reason govts like talking to charities and organisations, not individuals.
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Honestly I feel sick to my stomach about moving over to UC from esa, I had to go to a tribunal to get my esa. Why are they rushing it, when it was planned for a few years from now. By the sound of it they are making you worse off to push you into work, even though you may not be physically or mentally capable of doing it. I am struggling physically and my mental health worse with all this worry. I'm 57 so will find it hard to find work with my disability a d my age is against me
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Hi Summerlove Thank you, do I ring the DEA when I get the letter
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SUMMERLOVE, I know you get 3 months so when I get the letter to migrate ,can I go or do I write to the jobcentre to as the Dea for help
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Thank you I will.do
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For those migrating from ESA their UC will only include the LCWRA element if they are in the Support Group for ESA. @Andi66 is not currently in the Support Group, they are in the WRAG. (based on information from another thread) their claim started after April 2017, which means if they are still in the WRAG when they migrated across their UC will include LCW but with no extra money for this element due to the date their ESA claim started.
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The ESA being deducted from UC doesn't apply to those that are claiming Income Related ESA. It only applies to those claiming either New style or contributions based ESA. For those claiming Income Related ESA once a claim for UC is submitted their ESA will continue for 2 weeks and then stop completely.
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That's not correct if someone's ESA is all Income Related. It only applies for someone claiming either New style ESA or contributions based ESA. Please be careful with the advice you give because it's misleading in some cases.
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That's ok, I sent my esa review form back in January, my conditions have got worse so I'm still waiting to hear from them and to see if I be moved into a different group. It's frustrating especially if we are having to move to UC so soon.
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You can't just go onto this. For ESA it's Support Group and you need to meet the criteria for this first.
No problem. There's actually 3 types of ESA's, not 2. New style ESA, which is a contributions based only benefit and can't include the Income Related top up and is what you're claiming. Then the old contributions based, which can include the Income Related top up and also Income Related.
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I want to add that I first saw a DEA in 2008 when claiming disability-related Income Support. These are not new positions within job centres.
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I’ll apologise in advance as I didn’t read all the link asummerLove posted, but this was a quote from John Redwoods reply “strongly support the initiative to help more people who are long-term sick and disabled into work where they wish to do that”
I have no faith in Liz Kendall and us disabled I’m just hoping for a miracle, they need to go after the people who refuse to workm
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I totally agree they will be using the “it’s good for mh to work” but they need to understand mh, as previously said in this post when I become overwhelmed I start shouting at people and become frustrated, how is me feeling like that good let alone for an employer or other colleagues
I don’t blame you Catherine for having the volume down, I don’t watch at all I just look on the news sites to see the latest or read on here
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@SummerLove you said "most end up at Tribunal for the WCA" but that's not true because the majority of people are found to have LCWRA/Support Group (65%). Which means most do not end up at Tribunal.
Since April 2019, DWP have made 2.4 million decisions. Of these decisions, 16% of people were found to have no limited capability for work and hence no longer on UC health, 19% limited capability for work (LCW), and 65% limited capability for work and work-related activity (LCWRA).
ESA Support Group stats are slightly higher at ****%.
- ****% of outcomes for Support Group
- 14% of outcomes were for Work Related Activity Group
- 17% of outcomes were found Fit for Work
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It wasn't 200 people, it was 2 people.
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Thanks, that's an interesting read. Although different to what I was referring to, which was the SDP and EDP when transferring from some legacy benefits.
That link refers to being worse off in the longer term after TP has eroded. I'm actually one of those because my ESA also includes both disability premiums. For me, it's actually worse because I also claim carers allowance and when I move to UC the carers element won't be included due to having LCWRA.
I may give advice on the law regarding benefits but in no way does it mean I agree with all of those laws, far from it.
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Hi I have started a new discussion called Labour and what's in store for us under benefits category, hope that's ok so we can discuss our worries and insights and news about the Labour govt.
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