Pip changing to vouchers ??
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I agree and yes I was on a lifetime DLA award that had to be changed to a 10 year award when I converted to PIP - So they can't touch me for another 8 years !
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Yet another angle of this ludicrous idea has just occurred to me - the increase in work to the sellers. There's also the simple matter of change as in what you get if you don't tender the exact money. I doubt they'd want to know. Suppose you had a £20 voucher you spent on some small but useful gadget costing £15.99. The seller would have to a) claim £15.99 back from the DWP; b) notify them they had to issue you a new voucher for £4.01. Or suppose you had to ask the DWP first, please mummy, may I buy this item costing 15.99 and they issued a voucher for that sum only by the time you got it the price had gone up or down. The whole thing is a silly can of worms.
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Our only hope is that there was 16K submissions for the green paper. All of the feedback was negative. Parliament won't resume until 2nd September. It'll take a good while to go through the feedback. If they ignore this, many people will be up in arms.
I can't imagine the green paper going any further, but it's the waiting game that is making people restless.
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I read the article you speak about this morning - and I’m sick with worry too I read it four times to understand it putting in ramps getting equipment for people it’s sounded more costly than what they are doing now - plus many are in rented accomadation which you cannot without permission adapt Willy nilly to suit your needs - so that would mean rehousing millions of people I hope and pray this does not happen I can’t stand the Pm he’s an arrogant idiot with no understanding of disability or disabling conditions they way things are going he won’t make a year he’s already condemned the pensioners now it seems he’s going to start on us
Try not to stress about it until we have to is easier to type than put into practice but your not alone I feel like you do x
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I wouldn't worry about it too much, much of what you read is not true, the media take certain sides and love picking on the disabled and labeling them as lazy and scroungers. Just about everything the tories were initially thinking of doing to PIP was not even legal, especially the voucher system which would cost more money, leave people destitute or homeless, as many people are having to use their PIP to top up rent prices, which are none of our faults. It is illegal to leave any disabled person destitute or pooer due to policy changes, and it would also take years to implement any changes, including changing disability laws, employing more DWP staff etc. They may try offering certain people so called talking therapies which again means employing more staff as waiting lists are too long, they just like to frighten people into not claiming PIP as they'll think it's not worth going through all the stress.
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In particular article 28 c.
"To ensure access by persons with disabilities and their families living in situations of poverty to assistance from the State with disability-related expenses, including adequate training, counselling, financial assistance and respite care."
But there is no definition of "financial assistance"
And as for "respite care" ????
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I am following a tiktok page which my daughter got me onto https://www.tiktok.com/@haveyoursaynow and they talk about this and also pensioners. To be honest I was hoping labour would get in but I am shocked at their actions. It seems no matter what party you are, if you are a vulnerable person then you are a target for the government. I just hope they stop this.
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This is the main reason certain disabled people (especially those close to pension age) like myself, who are now getting ready to take government officials to the courts wibbles, for me this attack on the most vulnerable must stop, plus should the DWP enforce this voucher issue, then the potential of chaos is multiplied 16 million fold, which if any disabled person successfully prosecutes the government (that will mean no more Government Officials) which will kill the entire economy; this is the type of warning I have written to all political parties since I left College back in 1981 showing you the extent of the discrimination and who is truly responsible for the cause of the disability hate crime, this was why she was booted out of office in 1993 and why the UNCRPD was created in 1995! And yes, I have sent letters directly to 10 Downing Street, the only Prime Minister ever to respond to me was John Major himself, all the other ones (including Labour/Lib dems/UKIP/Green and the rest have not). This shows you how ignored disabled people truly are, and I feel that taking the political establishment to court is now the only way they will listen. Though I don't like to say this, Political Man are determined to be prosecuted for Treason and Sedition and Deliberate Sabotage of the Known Laws (Which directly affects the Royal Family itself). And to all you here in Scope, please keep this to hand, as I feel I will be one of many who will see this through to the end even it if does mean going to court via the DWP (Emergency Tribunal Under Disability Acts National and International Laws (Conventions Included).
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PS. Be aware that the Magna Carta is also being violated (even with the 2 articles that remain). Those who know history that was created by King John (Ruler after Richard the Lionheart) With King John himself violated (which is what spurned the legend or myth of Robin Hood). This is why I continuously mourn, as political man has lost all respect for the laws.
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Just to chime in, there's only 4 articles from the Magna Carta that are still law. Clauses 1, 13, 39 and 40. They mostly talk about the liberties of the English church, the privileges for the city of London and peoples right to a trial by jury.
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Changing to vouchers doesn't have to stop Motability. It could still be funded through the gov't in a similar way. But it could also be opened up to those of us who don't meet the strict PIP criteria for high rate Mobility now.
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Well pointed out Albus, the one you quoted is the one I was on about (the right to a trial by jury)
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Your welcome Catherine, this is why I constantly research online for, to keep up with most laws which do affect my future and that of other people, keeping a conscientious mind of how others would feel or react in these circumstances.
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As opposed to "Trial by Ordeal" - I know which I would prefer……
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But there is no definition of "financial assistance"
nor of this - "situations of poverty"
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Soul, I don't understand this and would like to.
Political Man are determined to be prosecuted for Treason and Sedition and Deliberate Sabotage of the Known Laws (Which directly affects the Royal Family itself).
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Wibbles 4 August
In particular article 28 c."To ensure access by persons with disabilities and their families living insituations of povertyto assistance from the State with disability-related expenses, including adequate training, counselling, financial assistance and respite care."But there is no definition of "financial assistance"And as for "respite care" ????
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We get financial help.
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I hope they don't change the disability benefits to vouchers as my youngest sister uses my niece's DLA for help with buying things that my niece needs like paying for a new tablet. I think she also uses the money to buy a new wheelchair for my niece when she needs one. The children's wheelchair that my niece currently has is a bit of a tight squeeze for her to fit in as she's quite tall. My youngest sister who is my mum says that it's a pain to get hold of the place where she gets my niece's wheelchair from and getting to where it is. I can't remember if my sister said that the place is walking distance from where she lives or if she has to use public transport as she can't drive.
Plus my sister said that she has to use some reins that she has for my niece when she wants to walk to fasten in her wheelchair so that she can't get out as she can climb out of her wheelchair and she can also open the lap belt that is supposed to keep her in her wheelchair and she knows how to operate the brakes on her wheelchair and she knows how to push herself in her wheelchair, so my sister has to keep at least one hand on the handle to stop her from moving her wheelchair.
She also uses my niece's money to buy her school uniform and a backpack to put some fresh clothes and other things my niece needs for when she's either at school or spending time with her other nana and grandad or with her other mummy and youngest sister and brother.
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We've had a new government for less than two months and they aren't even back in parliament yet @stay_positive I think it's best to just wait and see what happens. We don't want to scare anyone on the community please.
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