October 7th - diary date

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  • LIVEDANDLEARNED
    LIVEDANDLEARNED Community Member Posts: 145 Empowering

    @luvpink when/ where do we watch it?

  • cheekylittlekoala
    cheekylittlekoala Community Member Posts: 124 Empowering

    Can anyone update what was discussed.

    thank you

  • Dave1993
    Dave1993 Community Member Posts: 175 Empowering

    not finished yet sure people will when its finished

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Community Member Posts: 1,469 Championing

    Even Stephen Timms saying about getting disabled people to work

  • Dave1993
    Dave1993 Community Member Posts: 175 Empowering

    are they saying HOW they are going to do it or do they just plan to flick a magic wand and hope that disabled people are back to work

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Community Member Posts: 1,469 Championing

    I know, I mean would an employer want someone whose ill, taking time off work. Before I got really poorly and had to leave ,I had around 5 days off over 5 months and was huled in about it. It's ridiculous,

  • JonnycJonny
    JonnycJonny Scope Member Posts: 246 Empowering
    edited October 2024

    So it appears we'll have to wait for the Get Britain Working White Paper ( to be published this Autumn ) for detail on how those on ill health out of work benefits will be asked to engage with Job Centre Plus. As for PIP, no mention was made of where we stand in terms of the recent consultation.

    The Budget on the 30th will obviously be the day we hear about the financial implications - new benefit rates etc.

    All in all we remain in the dark regarding the future of PIP, WCA, LCW, LCWRA, ESA & Carer's Allowance

    Pensioners on the other hand know exactly where they stand in terms of the Winter Fuel Payment.

    Disappointing to say the least.

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Community Member Posts: 1,469 Championing

    Why don't they say about volunteering instead. One of my conditions is chronic and the weather effects my breathing and lungs. Don't know what work I'm supposed to do. Also fatigue that I need to sleep . Very let down by Timms response today

  • JonnycJonny
    JonnycJonny Scope Member Posts: 246 Empowering

    I agree - it feels a lot like the unemployed being told to ' Get on yer bike ' - those of a certain age might remember this phrase from the Thatcher era.

    Best wishes

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Community Member Posts: 1,469 Championing

    Vaguely, but why are they picking on disabled, they must know we aren't capable of working. Wish I knew what's happening to pip . They treat us as 2nd class nothing.

  • Jimm_Alumni
    Jimm_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 5,686 Championing

    One of the things we at Scope want is for attitudes from employers to change. It's not an easy thing certainly, but it would go a long way to help disabled people.

  • Durhamshire
    Durhamshire Community Member Posts: 69 Contributor

    This is scary for many, many of us. Without PIP I as I realise many others are going to succumb to even more challenges/difficulties. I never thought a Labour would do such a heartless, callous, uncaring thing. Many will needlessly suffer.

    I have physical health issues and psychological problems too. We don't know what is going to happen yet, but it has definitely exacerbated my anxiety and related issues. I am currently being seen as being of greater vulnerability/threat to myself and my welfare and have been put on a list relating to this with social services & community mental health (sorry I know there is a proper name for it, but escapes me).

    I am worried sick. Not sleeping or eating.

    Frightening times for many.

  • Ralph
    Ralph Community Member Posts: 135 Empowering

    it’s always the same with whatever government comes in of whatever colour. They make bold statements and threats even but in the end nothing really changes. They know they can’t magic sick people into work but they have to make the right noises. In the meantime the sick and disabled are castigated for something they can do little or nothing about. Disgraceful behaviour as usual.

  • Durhamshire
    Durhamshire Community Member Posts: 69 Contributor
  • Durhamshire
    Durhamshire Community Member Posts: 69 Contributor

    This really helps and hopefully will help others too. Thank You

  • Zipz
    Zipz Community Member Posts: 4,347 Championing

    99% of me is terrified. The other 1% tells me that there always has to be PIP (or something very like it) and that there has to be an ESA Support Group/ LCWRA. I know adults with the physical and mental capacity of infants of two. There's no way they could seek work and the same is true for many severely and multiply disabled people without hope of getting better.

  • Zipz
    Zipz Community Member Posts: 4,347 Championing
    edited October 2024
  • Zipz
    Zipz Community Member Posts: 4,347 Championing

    @JonnycJonny and @Catherine21 I think they intend that 80% of working age adults will be in employment not that 80% of non- working disabled people will be "forced" into work.

  • apple85
    apple85 Community Member Posts: 853 Championing

    can someone catch me up with the news of the day (been off the web all day):

    No one has really written a summary or even coherent snippets

    some seem upset with something Stephen timms said

    Some seem to be talking like pip’s going to be axed

    And the comment on wanting 80% to go into work - I think that 80% is referring to the labour aim mentioned a month or so ago is the goal of having 80% of working age Brits (16-66 state pension age) in some sort of employment……..which for the record that 80% has never been achieved by any government so it’s a tall order (not 80% of all working age disabled in employment unless timms said something new………it’s an impossible goal bcos even if they pressure the disabled they can’t pressure employers to hire disabled employees if they don’t want to)


    I do think that many on scope need to understand why we seem to be in this perfect storm and be more realistic and open on the things they could be able to do in the right circumstances and with the right help (human based, financial and physical aid based help)

    That being said the government need to be significantly more realistic on their own goals because based on the snippets we have so far, as my father puts it “what planet are they on…..” needless to say I haven’t heard anything yet to suggest the relevant labour dwp figures have more of a clue than their Tory counterparts (spoiler….i don’t think they do) - I mean today Kendall several times today seems to have suggested that you have to apply for pension credit via your local council (I think you have to apply for pension credit via dwp……………..Kendall has poorly briefed herself if I’ve understood that right)

  • apple85
    apple85 Community Member Posts: 853 Championing

    the most interesting thing I can find from today is the following (disability campaigners and activists have a truckload of reading if they choose to do so:

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    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/list-of-upcoming-research-publications/list-of-upcoming-research-publications

    List of all new published (Tory commissioned) reports

    https://www.gov.uk/search/research-and-statistics?organisations%5B%5D=department-for-work-pensions&page=1&parent=department-for-work-pensions

    Links to all 31 reports