Job coaches for mentally ill in hospital settings - BBC

You cannot get someone who is seriously mentally ill into a job, if he or she has a breakdown in the workplace not only could it damage them it could damage the people around the person in question.

I wonder if the thought has occurred to her that many seriously mentally ill people aren't 'safe' to do jobs?

Also, what kind of prospective employer will, with open arms, positively embrace a candidate with serious mental health challenges, simply because that one has been "coached" and had a tailored CV provided?

This has tipped me how dare they even think that and say it so sinister I'm really worried now so are they going to say as you haven't seen can't spell it psychiatrist your OK literally impossible to see one these days I've had enough I'm getting so angry it vile

I don't think this will get off the ground. The people who are in those units, are there for thier own and everyone else's safety and the staff are trained. I don't think they'll take kindly to a DWP goon trying to come in to hassle residents into taking up work.

Liz Kendall is on another planet.

There are many people in these units who are not only emotionally extremely unstable but have high degrees of paranoia towards anyone,be it staff,those in authority(doctors/government/DWP etc) or other patients. To be coerced to engage in this state could end very badly,for all and create new levels of trauma for patients.It would have to be ONLY on a non pressured ,voluntary basis, if at all.

Feels like Labour are playing good cop bad cop. On the one hand, you've got Stephen Timms giving PIP claimants peace of mind by saying that vouchers won't be happening, then you've got Liz Kendall coming out with this ****, putting the fear of God in vulnerable people!

We all know this will never happen, but she doesn't have an ounce of compassion in her!

These are human beings!

I'm no expert or anything, but I'm pretty sure this ridiculous proposal could have some serious legal repercussions for the DWP.

Anyone who has spent time in hospital knows how strict they are with regards to visitation. Most times it's only family members who are allowed, and this never happened with me but if it's someone you don't know, don't you have to give some kind of consent?

I imagine very few hospitals would stand for some work coach just waltzing in and demanding access to patients. And surely this would be interfering in the doctor patient relationship, and also infringing on patient's privacy?

I have no experience of being sectioned, but I imagine the visitation rules in those hospitals are even stricter? Surely they don't just let strangers in to see patients?

This clearly hasn't been thought through properly and could potentially have disastrous consequences.

Honestly if i God forbid made another suicide attempt and got visited by some idiot from a jobcentre to discuss writing my CV, I would tell them, and pardon my french, to go f**k themselves.

This women needs a good talking too. She needs to know what it's like with any disability. I fought for 20 odd years with myself and managed to work with depression and anxiety. As I believed the routine would be better for me. After being told by one of my last employers I couldn't amend times I worked ( needed to go in on earlier less crowded bus) as she didn't see mh as a disability I founde it harder. Ended up on diazapam to get on bus and still struggled, i no longer use public transport and only leave my house if necessary. My body eventually just told me enough. Does this women look at how many have actually worked previously and then had to stop. Does she not realise we know how to write cvs? We definitely don't need some jumped up self important person telling us how to do this especially those who need hospital care. Maybe we should send her all the discussions that have been on scope alone where we are all worrying.

I'm going to email Stephen timms and also going to say about liz kendell and the constant attacks we had on us for a year from tories and Labour turning out worse we need people talking on our behalf like wfp I am so so so angry

Yes your right I was terrified the last email your so right thankyou