Why

Catherine21
Catherine21 Community member Posts: 1,932 Trailblazing

Why are we being treated so bad ! What have we done to warrant the actions of the goverment years of psychological damage by tories hoping and preying they would get voted out to save our souls to be governed by a duplicate party labour don't care not releasing plans of changes ignoring pleas of great anguish to the disabled community throwing statements out like work pays worklessness sick note Britain the list goes on we will focus on back to work only those with tge MOST severe disabilities will be safe defy severe trying to keep positive whilst trying to navigate life looking for abstracts of any information its cruel inhumane we have given labour enough time to see our faith and they obviously do not care My question is what the hell can we do about this ! Day in day out waiting we need to do something any ideas what we can do to save literally our souls

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  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Community member Posts: 1,932 Trailblazing

    Thankyou kizzie58

  • Ironside1990
    Ironside1990 Community member Posts: 155 Empowering

    We are members of a minority group, that anyone can become a part of at any time, through accident or injury. We seem to be fair game, when it comes to being demonised and mistreated. It need to stop!

  • Albus_Scope
    Albus_Scope Posts: 7,574 Online Community Team

    We must remember the new government have only been in power for an amazingly short period of time and they appear to have a schedule of things they want to tackle first. Things which will also hopefully have a positive impact on our lives.

    It's best not to keep thinking about possible PIP changes, as it will take months to sift through all the information from the green paper, but I think it's a positive that the government have already had meetings with several charities, including Scope.

  • vikingqueen
    vikingqueen Scope Member Posts: 1,633 Championing

    I'm unaware of anything changing as of yet. Let's give the labour government a change to settle in.

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Community member, Scope Member Posts: 2,275 Championing
    edited July 26

    WHY?

    Because we didn't object to welfare reform in 2015 and voted the Tories in again.

    Because we still didn't spot the crisis in 2016 when those proposals became law.

    Because we took our eyes off the ball after being misled by certain campaign groups about what those reforms would mean for Support Group claimants post-pandemic.

    Nothing to do with Sir Keir as he voted against those damaging welfare reforms in 2015!

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Community member, Scope Member Posts: 2,275 Championing
    edited July 26

    WHY?

    The Welfare Reform and WORK Act 2016

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Community member Posts: 1,932 Trailblazing

    Trying to stay positive really hard I never knew about anything in 2016 or welfare reforms

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Community member Posts: 1,932 Trailblazing

    I understand Albus trying to keep positive but It is hard when you have MH and its triggered really hard

  • Albus_Scope
    Albus_Scope Posts: 7,574 Online Community Team

    I know you are @Catherine21 and I totally understand how hard it can get when the anxiety takes over, it's really difficult to push that all down. But you've been doing well recently, so keep it up!

    Having bad mental health is horrible and the media really doesn't make things easier for us. But we just need to try and take a biiiiig step back and attempt to get that logical part of our brains to tell us to either not read the papers, or at least remind us that the papers are there for clicks…and anger really sells! They're very careful to word things in such a way that will get us worried or angry.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Community member Posts: 1,932 Trailblazing

    X Thankgod for scope really appreciate the support

  • Meg24
    Meg24 Community member Posts: 348 Pioneering

    I'm struggling today, yesterday Liz Kendall had an opportunity to reassure us that they understand that there will be people who cannot work and need support. She didn't do that, no word on the -dangerous as it stands- rushed roll out of UC migration, not a word said about the democidal proposals in the PIP review paper, nothing on any other issue that affects those of us who can't survive without considerable financial support from the state.

    It's ALL about work. Which is very welcome if you consider that the only thing that holds you back from work is the work environment or you need fewer hours to accomodate your disability, all it does to the rest of us is spread panic.

    I've been fighting the DWP for 16 years and I don't have a lot left in me to keep doing it. I can't afford to lose one penny of income without losing all the structures i have spent years putting in place to keep myself stable.

    I really hoped we would hear something from Labour, I was sure they would say something but as it stands, I am losing hope.

    So much for change.

  • Albus_Scope
    Albus_Scope Posts: 7,574 Online Community Team

    Sorry to hear you're struggling today @Meg24 please try and be gentle with yourself. As said before it's very very early days for Labour and they seem to be working on a "Say nothing until we have ironclad ideas" so right now I'd say no news is good news.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Community member Posts: 1,932 Trailblazing
  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Community member Posts: 1,932 Trailblazing

    I used to think it was bad when dreaded assessments came around god leave it as it is I take that anytime over UC and all proposed I know people was pushing for one assessment only but they literally tool that twisted it and made it so much worse I wish like all of us do that wasn't apart of this inhumane system almost like pls sir can I have More its such a rollercoaster one minute I'm like ok breath it's OK live in the moment Next blind panic don't leave a peaceful life as it is with crippling MH live on my own because of benefits system I ended a relationship as he wanted to take to next level and sounds shallow but I couldn't lose my HB and my top up for esa also thats how the goverment likes us I follow all the rules and still feel like I'm doing something wrong when I was younger I was fearless bpd with anti social traits few years in this cruel system I'm a wreak always worrying when will it be my time see stories of people who have ended it all feel so much sorrow and sadness as you know the dark places DWP take us and that's without all these changes I'm going to say fk it we deserve to have peace we deserve respect I'm saying this to myself and all of us we are in this together we are not alone thankyou for this platform to write my fears feeling not criticism of my spelling writing supportive we live to fight another day warriors

  • OneSunnyDay1
    OneSunnyDay1 Community member Posts: 22 Listener

    I think I understand what you are talking about. I saw something that seems to suggest they want people back to work, or about 90% I think it said. They probably don't know how that would work and if that would even be possible, 90% is a high number. I think they also said they want many more young people in work. It sounds like they want to make a lot of changes at once, which will probably be hard and will take time.

    The thing is any government will want to make changes. Supporting people back to work can be a good thing if, they can work, get the right support, the employer is understanding of their condition or conditions and the person doesn't face repercussions if they can't stay in work.

    The thing is we do need to have an idea of what they are doing, so we can speak up for ourselves, our family or friends. If we are not aware of what is happening how will we make our voices heard to make the changes that we need?

    No one knows what they are actually going to do. But I understand it still causes panic and stress. I think it is important to talk about it if makes you feel better, I find talking about things helpful as I get to hear what others think. Knowing what might happen can help to manage anxiety for some people. But sometimes paying attention to it can make it worse, there can be fear mongering in the news. If any change does happen it will probably take some time and won't be immediate.

    You need to do what you feel is best for you and also what lessens your anxiety. You could try speaking to family or friends, there are also helplines you can search online for, that can be helpful if you are feeling overwhelmed. And you can post here as well, I think that's what this space is for.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Community member Posts: 1,932 Trailblazing

    You know I never got involved in politics never then last November caught sunak saying sick note Britain whoa I was transported to hell triggered beyond words my daughter dad was genuinely worried for me was literally out of my mind and I think to myself this has been happening for years! And I didn't know still did my assessments was in my own protective bubble I suppose all of this made me really look outside my bedroom with curtains shut living with a thousand thoughts feeling kept me busy for hours just thinking started really questioning myself my abilities and obviously as on esa and pip was literally noting amd if I did try a job it would be weeks then total burnout paranoid you name it made me relize I couldn't make it even if I wanted to where to start but my ranting raving isn't going to change my worst fears tiring thinking outside the box look to deep when having no control over my life world powerless like millions of us would drive the strongest person to some sort of uneasiness see I cant write sentences full stops alphabet always trying to hide that I cant write properly and absorb noting literally noting always asking doctor for the latest knock out tablet for peace of mind understand has to come from within

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Community member, Scope Member Posts: 2,275 Championing

    16 years Meg is about the same time as I've been fighting them - or rather 2008 is the year they pretended I became entitled to disability-related benefits…

    Kendall was all over Labour's 2015 disability manifesto so these are well-rehearsed speeches and spin. I don't understand why she's so aggressive though nor why Sir Keir - a calm and measured politician - approves of this tone.

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Community member, Scope Member Posts: 2,275 Championing

    WHY?

    The Conservative Party got through nine (9!) Secretaries of State for Work and Pensions in their 14-year reign!!!

    Iain Duncan Smith served from 2010 until 2016. Eight followed until Labour took power in 2024.

    Labour got through eight shadow ministers during those 14 years..

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Community member Posts: 1,932 Trailblazing

    Can I ask with the wca when labour make thier proposing changes does it have to be debated or is it already set up