Job coaches for mentally ill in hospital settings - BBC
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I want to thank you for clarifying what was in that report. I unfortunately did not have the time to review the full report. I had initially read this document from the previous government about addressing the concern. I did notice it had mentioned "could be considered neurodiverse" and mentioned acquired injuries but I incorrectly assumed that would be a relatively small contingent.
I never intended to say that people who are neurodiverse are more inclined to illegal activity. I do not think that at all about myself or other neurodiverse people. More that I think neurodiverse people who are not given support, adaptations or even given basic understanding from a neurotypical society can find themselves in worsened environmental circumstances which we agree can push anyone to crime just to survive.
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Jimm, I saw a very recent report into prisoners themselves (nothing to do with the rest of us) and an astonishing two-thirds are estimated to be undiagnosed. This is from memory - I tend to scan and I'm too tired to look it up. Just making a point that it's a significant number.
Those of us on the outside with better resources and skills cannot easily get an assessment for diagnosis so what chance do they have of getting one?
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She doesnt understand psychiatric illness at all. The meds people have to take are so strong they completely change how your body and metabolism etc works. What does she think mental illness is? To help treat my psychiatric illness i have to take really heavy duty meds that are extremely sedative. If i sit down for 10minutes or more i start to fall asleep. I gained 4 and a half stone in 2 months with no increase in appetite just eating normal food. Without meds my life was total torment i could not sleep literally at all. If I hadnt taken the meds i have to take i dont think I'd be here today. So this woman thinks she can stroll into mental health units and help people complete CVs? Little does she know or care. They are trying to force people to work when they arent capable of it.
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This to a certain extent happened to me. When I came out of psych unit into the hands of mental health worker, she sent me on a course for self confidence. It was awful I was still in psychosis and just thought everyone was spying on me and were going to tell DWP I was on a course. The same mental health nurse told me at some point a job would be good. So not as severe as them going into the unit but this all happened within a month of coming out of one. This was five years ago
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Yes I seen on news that alot of people in prison have undiagnosed adhd sort of makes sense some go to crime some have addictions I suppose it's the impulsive side I'm awaiting adhd test and my symptoms are very like boys symptoms weird I ended up in care dropped out of school had to go to how would say it well school for naughty kids was awful as dyslexic which I felt great shame so would play up and ashamed to say I did get on trouble with the law I'm 52 and I feel sad for the loss of that time in my life and how I didn't choose right path at times anyways sorry I start on topic then go off topic always wonder if had early intervention how different things would be but even though these things happened I never lost my empathy for people
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That's awful I think I'd be the Same did they end up leaving you alone
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It's inhumane like there there come on you know working in tescos is so good for your mental health ! Im sure we all have atories of all the jobs we done I was always in and out of jobs and the last one the boss was on at me day in and out and I'm a great one for injustice she used to bark orders and everyday I find my rage building I became so ill I went on sick and I used to rage about her I started getting reality mixed up everyday phoning leaving messages on work phone her phone I literally lost my mind I got arrested and warned about harassment and they said don't contact her again I came home from police station and still left a message calling her yellow belly I didn't care it's such a sensitive subject I look ok speak ok but I relize that's a mask can keep up for couple weeks many couple month and used to do lot of agency work it was unbearable to be around people I'd go on lunch and literally get out of there go home get in bed and shake then hate myself because I just couldn't do it but now I understand 100 percent adhd and I'm definitely autistic
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I have been very lucky to be able to steer clear of mainstream services, I live in an area with lots of 'alternative lifestyle' people, lots of ex hippies, large gay community etc. This has meant a huge demand for alternative therapies and also different approaches to mental healthcare. I was immensely lucky to get a spot on one of the only open ended art psychotherapy services in the NHS and they have been supporting me for over 20 years. I literally could not have survived without them, I can't say what state my MH would have been in without them, or whether I'd have been in and out of hospital, but they're focus has always been on my mental health and needs in relation to maintaining stability. For example they were instrumental in getting me a social housing let so I could have a stable and safe roof over my head. If at any point they had started being insistent on my thinking about employment I would have left because it would have been just another existential threat.
I have never needed any other services, never needed to get a diagnosis (I know there are one or two I fit the criteria for but they terrify me) and I live an independent life as much as I am able. I can't help feeling that if this approach was taken across the country, so much money could ve saved and more importantly people suffering MH could feel genuinely cared for. I will be forever grateful.
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I signed myself out of psychiatric care well before I should of to get rid of them
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I don't blame you MH real I'm the kindest person without sounding big headed but if someone pushes me god I get bad like my brain switches especially under pressure how are you doing now
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Honestly I get like caged animal
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I'm awaiting assessments for adhd you know with autism do you find doing tasks ie council dwp overwhelming makes me so ill think got ptsd from dwp I shake feel sick can't focus god what a way to live been so triggered I hate all this rely on state sorry just rambling
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Exactly same been triggered hard to come down phew breath in and out x
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Thankyou so much my daughter was getting frustrated I understand I go into complete terror running round losing things reading things wrong got most bits then I will send thankyou
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Thankyou so much x hope your well today and have a fabulous xx
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Your comments are deeply concerning. While frustration with the DWP is completely valid, labelling someone as [removed by moderator] only spreads hate and further divides us. This kind of rhetoric can have serious consequences and detracts from the real issues we need to address. Let's focus on advocating for change and holding those in power accountable, rather than resorting to harmful language that does nothing to help our cause.
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Why is it difficult for the government to understand that early diagnosis and treatment of mental illness can reduce the number of crimes and delinquency and the resulting financial losses? Or is it beneficial for the government for people to sit in prisons and work there?
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If I offended you I apologise but I don't have any nice words for any of them but moving forward I will keep that option for myself thanks
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