The official 2024 budget discussion.
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We'd just like to nip this in the bud now before it possibly escalates. We understand tensions are high at the moment but can we please refrain from blaming other groups for the decisions the Government have made in regards to the disabled community.
Thanks for your understanding.
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I guess we need to wait for this white paper?
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I took this at first to mean that CA would increase from £81.90 to 16 hours at National Living Wage rates (which would be 16 * £12.21 - or £195.36 per week.
But NO - it means that Carers are ALLOWED to earn an extra £10k pa - isn't that kind of them ?
I mean - how does that mean "the biggest rise in CA since it was introduced in 1976" ?
CA itself is NOT being increased at all !!
This is a deliberate lie !
I mean they announce the minimum wage is being increased by 6.7% but not the CA rate !
So - overall - CA is effectively being reduced.
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in Feb 2024 - there were still over 600,000 adult claimants of DLA with a similar number (600,000) of claimants under 16.
the stats show that only 37,000 were converted from DLA to PIP in the last 12 months - so this will take almost 20 years to deal with, unless they pull their fingers out !
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Well done, proud of you.
I had emailed Timms in the past , but he just thanked for writing and not addressed the issues
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Doesn't all these WCA reforms still have to pass in parliament though so how are they going to get it out in 2025 can they do it that fast? people are saying april imo this would take years "if" it even does pass @Nightcity
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torie version really passed? jesus they really don't care do they
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apparently they have not "fully" passed so that's good news
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The Conservative government’s plan to reform the Work Capability Assessment (WCA), outlined in the 2023 Health and Disability White Paper, aimed to end the WCA by 2025, streamlining the assessment process for disabled individuals and aligning it with Personal Independence Payment (PIP) eligibility. The proposed reform was intended to reduce economic inactivity and create a more integrated system for assessing work capacity among benefit claimants.
While the legislative process began in 2023, including consultations and parliamentary discussions, it faced delays and significant opposition. Disability rights organizations and charities voiced strong objections, warning that the proposed reforms might lead to increased poverty and hardship for disabled people who depend on benefits. The advocacy groups argue that eliminating the WCA without a clear, fair alternative could leave vulnerable individuals at risk. The plans were further delayed when the June 2024 election paused parliamentary activities, adding uncertainty to the reforms' future.
Currently, these reforms have not fully passed in Parliament, and the new government has yet to confirm if or when they will advance. For now, while preparations have been underway, the timeline remains uncertain as the legislative process awaits further government action.
For additional information on the reforms' implications, you can explore detailed sources from the UK Parliament and disability advocacy updates.
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I had been on LCWRA for around 12 years and I was reassessed last year out if the blue.
I remained in the support group.
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Does anyone know if this is true in regards to LCWRA and WCA supposed changes and current claims?
Source: https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-9800/#:~:text=The%20Transforming%20Support%20white%20paper,make%20savings%20from%20the%20reforms.
“….When might changes be introduced?
The Transforming Support white paper states that primary legislation would be introduced in a new Parliament (after the next general election) “when parliamentary time allows”.
After that, the changes would be introduced for new claims only, on a staged, geographical basis. This would begin no earlier than 2026/27, and roll-out would take at least three years. From 2029 at the earliest, existing UC LCWRA claimants would then move on to the new system.”
I was awarded UC/LCWRA only in March for a minimum of two years and currently get PIP.
My main worry at the moment is the new white paper detail which says that those on LCWRA will be moved over to what will be known as the ‘Health Group’ and that if you work more than 6 months your LCWRA will be removed 😳 I’ve always worked while on it as my Cerebral Palsy makes it challenging but not impossible currently and I thought you were encouraged to work on it! Even with trying to work I still rely on LCWRA to live so it’s a worry it might get taken away for trying to do what they are asking us all to essentially do - work!!
If current claimants are protected until 2029 that’s something at least though obviously the whole situation is so stressful and worrying for us all 😞😩🥺
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Hi, can you tell us the relevance of November 29th please?
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So why is there such a back log?
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I think this is all a consequence of the social model of disability, which gives politicians a tool to discriminate against people with disabilities. And it’s a pity to spend money on disabled people too.
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Because the true owners of power do not want to spend money on the state apparatus 😁
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Why do we keep needing to be moved onto another "new system" isn't this the reason why it's costly and time consuming?
They are migrating the IR six legacy benefit claimants onto UC. Then they plan to move those with LCWRA onto something else, even though we are being moved to make things easier 🤷
By 2029 won't we have had an election?
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This is what I was first led to believe.
But raising the amount people on CA can earn will make no difference to most Carers as they are also on Universal Credit and so cannot even earn a £ before money starts to be taken from the benefit.
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Wow, are you sure those numbers don’t include state pension DLA recipients? Sounds far higher than I imagined. Do you have a link for the data if you don’t mind? Thanks!
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the BBC have a good podcast. It is called “The Today Podcast”. On 31 October Nick Robinson interviewed Rachel Reeves about her budget and this was followed by an analysis by Nick and his co-host Amos Rajan. It is available on BBC Sounds. I hope this helps to explain a bit about the budget and to allay some fears.
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