Upcoming changes to benefits

It's like they want people to engage just for the sake of engaging, why? What use is it for someone to engage who genuinely can't work? Just seems controlling to me.

It's like they don't want us to ever be able to relax or have peace.

What were you expecting? That they’d shelf the green paper after a week of backlash (you underestimate politicans if you thought that)

Of course the likes of Kendall and reeves are still full steam ahead - this is the start of what may be a very long ‘campaign’ on our part as changes will take time for gov to get through

Far too early to lose one’s nerve and reassessments are part of the benefit system that you just have to deal with (it suck’s but I’m thankful the pandemic slowed things down a bit but it was always going to go back to every 12-24 months reassessments like clockwork)

This is going to sound harsh but thick skin will really help in getting through the upcoming year or 2

I’m going to wait until the official announcement in the coming days then decide from there. If turns out to be true new claims even those who have to move over from ESA are going be affected and won’t be getting LWCRA. Then I won’t be moving over but if not I’ll move over.

is @Kimmy87 around

This guardian article is suggesting only the freeze on pip will require legislation

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/mar/14/mps-warn-no-10-frontbenchers-could-quit-over-disability-benefits-plan

”They suggested any vote in parliament – only required for the Pip freeze – would lead to a significant rebellion and the threat of resignations.”

”The change most likely to trigger resignations would be freezing Pip, which would require primary legislation.”

I am still right in thinking any other welfare cuts or tightening of criteria would also need to go through (most likely lengthy) legislation (though it was reported earlier in the week that ministers wanted to implement wca full reforms by this sept and after a 2 month consultation that would require legislation to be introduced and completed in 4 months to meet that sept 2025 target which sounds next to impossible unless legislation was never needed)

I’m hoping the guardian either haven’t explained things well or they misunderstood the process (easy to understand- so much disinformation right now)

One thing, not sure if this has happened to others, but I was due for re-assessment for PIP, but recently they automatically awarded my PIP for another year, basically delaying the re-assessment. The cynic might claim they are delaying it, until they can change the criteria to try and say you aren't eligible. Albeit, I don't believe for a second they will get these changes through within a year either.

It's also a warning to any idea that it will only apply to new claimants, they will always come after existing claimants in the end, even if that's the initial announcement, so everyone has to oppose this, even if you think it won't apply to you right now.

I’m now starting to think this was the plan all along. Get everyone off IR ESA for UC only to when you do move to UC you’ll lose it regardless.

So Reeves says ''Changing the fiscal rules would be breaking a promise to the people who voted Labour.''

I would argue that it would be keeping a promise to the voters when they said they wouldn't return to austerity.

does anyone know how long it would take to bring these changes in ? Will they need to go to a vote and will they be delayed by any court action ? This is even harsher than the Tory’s and they lost in court so how can this be legal

Everyone try to stay strong. I have a feeling there will be growing support. This will be the biggest rebellion issue they have faced and will gain alot more public attention going forward.