Upcoming changes to benefits
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@charlie72 Oh don't mind at all! - Thank you! I don't know why I'd got the full document but couldn't upload it, I think it's very well written with very clear explanations and examples. Thanks again 😊
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thank you for that . The points system worries me as I’ve found that answers I’ve given assessors would say give me 4 points but I’ve been awarded 2 . This certainly happened during my last assessment where I was awarded enough points for highest but never getting more than 2 points per answer . This is open to assessors being able to fail ppl . So if they ask someone with say arthritis or fibromyalgia etc where pain changes to different areas , can you wash between you waist and shoulders and they answer is most of time no , they then ask can you wash your hair . Obviously you can’t if you can’t wash up your your shoulders. So depending on your assessor do you get 2 points or the needed 4 ? This to me is just starting the whole pip assessor situation where when I first went to pip I was bullied and lied about not only the assessor but the first tier tribunal.
Secondly if they’re admitting that this is to stop the amount of claimants and not to get people working is that lawful ? And Kendall as good as admitted they haven’t done a risk assessment. Didn’t Ellen Clifford win her court case because for the same reasons.2 -
like i said earlier this is only the green paper this is what they WANT to do what they WILL do will probs be alot more relaxed than this
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It said its for new claimants,
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the biggest worry for me is lcwra . I’m on legacy esa so I could move over anytime as I don’t get SDP . But if I’m told to prepare for work I simply can’t . Will that mean sanctions even for sick or disabled ppl ?
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I didn’t see that part , brain fog 😩. But what about reviews ? I take it if this comes into affect it will be existing claimants up for review ?
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I just read it again and it’s also for reassessments . So they’ll get us all eventually if they can . If any of this is even true .
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Your very welcome😊
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Only if the people get SDP. Over half the people moving from ESA to UC get no TP because the basic rate is a lot higher.
However the way things are going UC will end up being the same rate as the current ESA, plus the people who get TP will never see a benefit rise for maybe 10 years now if the cuts come in..
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Hi,
Does anyone know if the cuts will affect New Style ESA? That’s the only benefit I receive, in support group. Many of the articles only mention legacy ESA, UC and PIP to be affected?
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This is all making me ill. The sanction thing is terrifying me because I know I am not going to be able to work what ever they say or do. I won't even be able to get to the job centre if that is required. Seriously, I am going to end up destitute and on the street if all this happens and is as strict as it appears it might be. I hope it eventually gets watered down enough to be manageable.
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Nobody knows the details yet, i think this will be more for new claimants, however their is high chance this will end up going to high court so this will get challenged with the LCWRAG group.
This will end up getting watered down before becoming law and could possibly take years.
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I really hope so.
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I know it is really hard :-( but try to block out the news until tuesday.
right now their is so much speculation which does not help anyone :-(
Keep in mind this will be a green paper so it has lengthy proccess, i think once we know for sure what the cuts will be on tuesday then we can get better idea then.
As Dave says just because they want these changes does not mean they will happened once they do become law.
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Glad Wes Streeting is getting called out by experts! He’s such a slimy little — I’m going to censor myself here. But you get the point.
The fact he called it “mental wellbeing” makes it even more ridiculous. As I said earlier — it’s mental ILLNESS. It’s a literal, medical, legal disability. No one is getting signed off work or awarded PIP for “mild stress” or whatever he wants to make it out to be
Editing to add: this isn’t to minimise people with stress no matter how “minor” it might seem, it’s a real and valid issue and deserves to be taken seriously. But these uneducated idiots appear to think that people are getting PIP/LCWRA based on that, and not severe mental illness diagnosis’
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I can’t see how legally they could remove our rights as sick and disabled people . Removing lcwra and not replacing it with an alternative benefit is basically denying the existence of sick people. Not only that but if they plan on increasing money for basic uc yet scrap lcwra that means we will also be on basic rate and get the higher rate . So there wouldn’t be any savings anyway . Nothing makes sense to me really. If what’s in the msm is correct why did streeting say he didn’t know of the reforms yet ? Right now I’m feeling more positive as there’s more resistance to this than I think they expected. I read this evening in the guardian someone from parliament said reeves and Starmer are worried now. All we can do for our health and MH is try to relax until we know more and remember ppl are not happy with what they’re doing and will fight back .
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Thank you. I have been trying to block it out, but it just keeps whirring away in the back or my mind along with the constant whirlpool stomach and what ifs. I know we are all in the same boat so at least we have each other to talk to.
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Mixed news in tomorrow’s papers:
First the good news, according to the i Paper ‘Labour disability benefits cuts rebellion grows despite No. 10 concessions’
Then a scaremongering front page by the Telegraph (not surprised considering how right wing it is mind) ‘4 in 10 Gen-Z workers consider quitting to live on benefits’ - Though reading into the headline further, it *actually* says 37% of people have considered leaving their jobs in the last 12 months, which sounds like something totally different!
Edit - Oh and one possible glimmer of hope for us, the Guardian’s front page has just been added and it says they may potentially freeze LCWRA rather than cut it. Which still isn’t ideal, but is a better alternative than most of what we’ve seen this last few weeks.5 -
I think it's because it feels like everyone is treading water and in limbo at the moment. I suppose when they announce what their definite plans are that's when a backlash will start and it will feel like something's moving. Everyone's stuck until then. I am glad Reeves and Starmer are getting worried now, though that's a fraction of what we are all feeling.
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they are evil as is Kendall and Timms. All we can do is try and relax until we actually know what they do plan .
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