Upcoming changes to benefits
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And if you do you suffer for it afterwards
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My question then, and forgive me if I’m being dense everyone, is would this be 4 points on PIP as a whole or 4 points for each section (Daily Living & Mobility)?
For instance, I get 18 points for mobility, an 8 and a 10, and currently 10 for Daily Living (though that is going to appeal) - With five lots of 2 points each.If I get another 2 points elsewhere for the 12 at my appeal, when it’s next reviewed would I still get enhanced for Daily Living as I got more than 4 in Mobility?
Or would I suddenly be ‘cured’ and drop to nothing for Daily Living because I get no more than 2 points in each section of it? It’s madness!1 -
I’m so sorry you’re going through this!
Remember, we don’t actually know what’s going to be announced, and we might not lose LCWRA (or if there is a cut, it might not be as much as we’re worried about) so hopefully it’ll be better than expected and not our worse-case-scenario 💜
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I agree , it’s not knowing that’s worse . But I’m sure it’ll take time to come into effect , if it comes in .
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It definitely makes everything harder. Thankful that some understand at least
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There are some in the UC LCWRA group ( ESA Support Group ) who are in a 'severe conditions category' ( it can be Googled ) whereby they are completely exempt from further assessments - this is apparently explicitly set out in their award letters. It 'may' or 'may not' be those claimants who will be 'protected' from a rate cut tomorrow or they will be given a new named health benefit.
All will be revealed tomorrow.
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Can I just say how grateful I am for this forum? It feels like such a safe space and I’m so thankful for all of the support from everyone ❤️
I hope everyone is looking after themselves tonight. I feel too worked up to sleep… I’m in bed waiting for my meds to kick in
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One other thing I don’t know if the Decision Makers take into account - I know everyone’s conditions are different, but I also have supposed ‘lower level’ illnesses like Autism & ADD which I could deal with, even if it was a struggle, while I was fit and healthy.
However now I’ve got long covid, COPD and other illnesses that have taken all my energy, I don’t have the same reserves to deal with problems I could ‘manage’, albeit with great difficulty, when I wasn’t sick. Will that be taken into account?0 -
This is the category I would fall into
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@FluffyCatMeow I guess so, but if I loose any of the money I won’t be able to afford anything :( will it take a vote in parliament to change the amount people are paid? And if they plan to do that, then why did they increase it for April x
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if it’s going to appeal does that mean you’ve already put a review form in ? Cos if you have I don’t think it would change to any new system they’ve planned as nothing has been passed yet .
The way I read the points and I could be wrong but it’s 4 points on one question then any 4 points on other questions so 8 total for lower
4 points one question plus 8! Points for other questions total 12I haven’t read anything on mobility but the points are different on that . It’s strange but I haven’t seen anything regarding motability at all .
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problem is there are people out there tonight who are worried sick by all this and I’d bet there are people who can’t take much more of this I work and have pip but I think I will lose everything I have and I feel what all you are feeling xxxxx
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I don’t think I even have an award letter . I remember they assessed me every 11 months for about 3 times. 3rd time they called to say they’re doing paper review. I kept esa and haven’t had an assessment in about 7 years or more .
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yes it’s kept me sane
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it’s a vicious circle. You can’t do anything cos of fatigue ( both physically and mentally) then the fibromyalgia pain is worse cos you haven’t done anything. You can’t win
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Sorry I find all these terms overwhelming, I’ve actually done a mandatory reconsideration already and I’m going to tribunal.
I’m still at the ‘gathering evidence’ stage of my tribunal though and making sure I have further evidence, and I have someone acting on my behalf with all this as an Advocate due to my numerous issues (I’m going to call them up tomorrow actually)I thought the ‘4 points’ thing meant they were doing away with all things on the PIP application process that gives less than 4 points, as in they no longer counted?
This is the problem that it’s all so unclear, I have a multitude of illnesses that will never get better and now I (like so many others) are worried this safety net has been ripped away from us all.1 -
I know, I think lcwra or esa is the biggest worry as i physically cannot work . That’s where they hold the power imo
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A 'severe conditions category' has been around for a number of years - since 2016/2017 I believe. As I say, the letter would clearly state no further assessment required.
It could be these severely impaired claimants who are spared a cut to their benefit.
Speculation only - facts tomorrow.
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imo whatever they put in the green paper will have no bearing on your tribunal . Hopefully you’ll get a long award so by the time you have a review things will be easier.
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how often are esa reviews usually ? Or even lcwra
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