The Autumn Statement 2023
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Thank you so much . Always here if you need a chat .1
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When is the next general election? Is it December 2024?0
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From reports today, the Conservatives are hiring a campaign manager 1st January 2024, so we may possibly see an early election.mason50 said:When is the next general election? Is it December 2024?0 -
What’s a campaign manager ?0
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Albus_Scope said:1
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When parties go up for elections, they have huge teams of people running all the various aspects of the campaigns we see on the TV/papers/radio. The campaign manager is the person who oversees everyone and reports back to the government. You wont have one unless there's an election brewing.mason50 said:What’s a campaign manager ?0 -
Let’s hope we have a new MP and they change things around1
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Albus_Scope said:
From reports today, the Conservatives are hiring a campaign manager 1st January 2024, so we may possibly see an early election.mason50 said:When is the next general election? Is it December 2024?
On the news last night they were predicting May 2024, no idea if that's true but i'm sure we'll hear soon enough if it is.
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We can only hope 🙏1
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Sounds about the right time. I'd be expecting it to happen shortly after the end of the financial year, as they'll be able to use more current stats with campaigns.
So end of financial year is 31/03/2024, so a month to gather stats, so May would make sense.2 -
I would like to know how it will work when you have personal assistants will they be going to work with you? How will it work with paying towards your care package?0
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Lizzieloo said:I would like to know how it will work when you have personal assistants will they be going to work with you? How will it work with paying towards your care package?
Sanctions will only affect those looking for work if they don't do what is expected of them. It doesn't apply to those claim ESA in the WRAG/Support Group or those claiming UC with either LCW or LCWRA.
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Danny123 said:So I'm housebound with extreme OCD and haven't been out my house in 5 years , I'm on cbesa and UC lcwra .... After reading scopes statement Am I right in thinking the only thing that could affect me is if I get found fit for work on the new assessment questionnaire or they make me work from home ?
Correct.
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I must admit I'm still somewhat confused by these two contradictory statements...a Chance to Work Guarantee for existing claimants on UC and ESA with LCWRA. This change will be effective from 2025, at the same time as WCA changes are introduced. This change will in effect abolish the WCA for the vast majority of this groupAnd...These changes will mean that almost all people who are currently assessed as having LCWRA will never face a WCA reassessment again. Reassessments will only take place under very limited circumstances.So which is it? Are they still proposing to reassess people until 2025, or have reassessments now ceased except under limited circumstances?The Benefits and Work site seem to be interpreting it as the latter but I'm not so sure, it can be read either way.I realise there's going to be an election, hopefully sooner rather than later, so some think this might not matter, but if Labour do get in they'll have an almighty mess on their hands with varying priorities and it takes a long time to get things through parliament. I suspect we'll be living with yesterdays' changes for some time to come.
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Danny123 said:I'm pretty sure I would qualify for the descriptors in the new look assessment even after theve updated it .... but am I right in thinking even if at this moment your an existing surport group and lcwra claimant and if you then have to take the new look assessment and pass they can still make you work from home and of you can't they will cut your benefits?
No, all the changes announced yesterday only apply to new claims, it was one of the few things they were unambiguous about.
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It doesn't entirely make sense. I'm scratching my head a bit with it. Perhaps B and W are right. I can hear those Tories now in a run up to election "we've given x amount of ill ppl the opportunity to try work without financial repercussion" perhaps they even think this might make us vote for them.Votadini said:I must admit I'm still somewhat confused by these two contradictory statements...a Chance to Work Guarantee for existing claimants on UC and ESA with LCWRA. This change will be effective from 2025, at the same time as WCA changes are introduced. This change will in effect abolish the WCA for the vast majority of this groupAnd...These changes will mean that almost all people who are currently assessed as having LCWRA will never face a WCA reassessment again. Reassessments will only take place under very limited circumstances.So which is it? Are they still proposing to reassess people until 2025, or have reassessments now ceased except under limited circumstances?The Benefits and Work site seem to be interpreting it as the latter but I'm not so sure, it can be read either way.I realise there's going to be an election, hopefully sooner rather than later, so some think this might not matter, but if Labour do get in they'll have an almighty mess on their hands with varying priorities and it takes a long time to get things through parliament. I suspect we'll be living with yesterdays' changes for some time to come.
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The changes to the WCA will only be for new claims; this has been confirmed in both the DWP response to the consultation and the press release they put out.
Those already in the LCWRA/Support Group will remain that way and according to the DWP won't be reassessed (how nice of them).
I bet the only reason they'll be targeting new claimants is because it would be too much effort to have to reassess all of the existing claimants. I doubt it's out of compassion.1 -
The consultation suggested the changes were going to be much harsher, it does seem like they have back pedalled a bit with the announcement which is a good thing.My interpretation of the DWP statement, is that the vast majority currently in the LCWRA group will not need to have another WCA, this is for both UC and ESA.
However there is a chance this exemption might not kick in until 2025, as I agree the two statements are slightly contradictory. But my original interpretation was they are probably going to soon stop referrals, new claimants in 2024 will be under the existing WCA. New claimants from 2025 onwards new WCA, and LCW looks like will still be reassessed so those will also be under new rules from 2025.--If Labour get elected there is a chance this wont happen, but I personally think they will be less compassionate, especially as they announced yesterday they are planning to have a new harsher assessment in place of WCA, whilst the Tories are going in the other direction and wanting to remove the assessment from existing claimants.1 -
Grissom123 said:I bet the only reason they'll be targeting new claimants is because it would be too much effort to have to reassess all of the existing claimants. I doubt it's out of compassion.There are 2.4 million people in the support group/LCWRA. The last person stupid enough to try to reassess them all in a short space of time was Iain Duncan Smith and he broke the system leading to massive backlogs and everyone having their reassessment deferred by at least 2 years.I absolutely agree with you. This has nothing to do with compassion and everything to do with a lack of capacity and a fear of legal challenges.2
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Votadini said:Grissom123 said:I bet the only reason they'll be targeting new claimants is because it would be too much effort to have to reassess all of the existing claimants. I doubt it's out of compassion.There are 2.4 million people in the support group/LCWRA. The last person stupid enough to try to reassess them all in a short space of time was Iain Duncan Smith and he broke the system leading to massive backlogs and everyone having their reassessment deferred by at least 2 years.I absolutely agree with you. This has nothing to do with compassion and everything to do with a lack of capacity and a fear of legal challenges.They have likely concluded its just too much trouble to reclassify existing claimants. On ESA the last decision stands until a new one overrides it, so at an absolute minimum everyone would need to get reassessed and we already know the system cant cope with that.We know where this government stands now (at least for the near future) I am now in fear of what Labour are planning, they have made numerous noises already about wanting to clamp down, and yesterday Reeve said she will replace the WCA with something designed to cut people in the LCWRA group.Historically Labour have been less compassionate, they introduced ESA over IB, and the regulation 35 rule was loosened up gradually by the existing government between 2011 and now. It was much harsher a decade ago the way Labour designed it.0
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