Official thread: ‘Get Britain Working’ White Paper released Tuesday 26th November

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  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 2,787 Championing
  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 2,677 Championing
    edited December 23
    • No one, nobody, not even govt can bully, intimidate or harass you: all you have to say is: ''I feel suicidal/ bullied, intimidated/ harassed and / or suicidal by your talking down to me, and not following your duty of care towards me.''

    DWP agents are authorised to request an ambulance to the job centre or to your home if you tell them you are feeling suicidal.

    They are not the best people to tell if you need urgent help.

  • MadMilan2019
    MadMilan2019 Online Community Member Posts: 9 Contributor

    I welcome the debate. DWP and any other govt agency, or person, are first required to ask you if you are suicidal,

    'Do you want us to contact anyone on your behalf, or a friend,

    before they ring 999 for an ambulance.

    Then they fulfil their duty of care, and the least restrictive option

    (if you do not know what this latter phrase means please Google it). Thanks.

    Also I have been suicidal many times in my life, but believe with mindfulness practice over decades, that these feelings will either dissolve, or become so short in duration, that they will not matter; I will not suffer. Meditation and mindfulness practices over 25 years have significantly reduced them already.

    Further, the police can no longer do sections 135 and 136 of the Mental Health Act 1983. However someone who calls 999 if they think you'll kill yourself, will mean an ambulance will first arrive and paramedics will knock on your door.

    If ambulance staff cannot talk to you, if you do not open the door, then they can ask the fire service to break down your door.

    However you cannot be sectioned from a public place, or your home, by the police, asnd forced against your will to a psychiatric hospital.

    As I have had 15 friends and acquaintances, in total who died in the 'loony bin' from various forms of abuse, a psychiatric ward is the last place I consider tp be a place of safety.

    And many people said police intervention only re-traumatised them anyway, that often times people, with good intentions, no doubt did not listen to their views (which is against the human right to dignity and respect, even if they disagree with your views)

    I would NEVER want anyone friend, or foe, or stranger to section me; it is my life and no one else's - and thus I have written to Leeds 999: fire, police and ambulance that they should never visit me at home, it is none of their business, and I am fully responsible for my life or death.

    That is is for me to work out not them, whilst their concern is kind, it may not fulfil my needs.

    We all need friends, true friends, and if we are negative to see a more sunny side of life, and I do not say that lightly; I was beaten for years by 5 members of my family, but there were also 6 other causes of trauma. We need time, space and support, and reading to work out the right insights and views for us.

    Look after yourselves and do notake any S***!

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 2,787 Championing

    When filling my pip form I stated you do not follow The Equality Act 2010 also stated which is true that thier lies and bullying has caused ptsd everytime recieve the forms so I said if your asking me what I can and can't do that's facts don't change and lie and cause more misery sent in July sick of living in fear