Official thread: ‘Get Britain Working’ White Paper released Tuesday 26th November

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  • worried33
    worried33 Online Community Member Posts: 662 Pioneering

    What is not in dispute, however, is that the DWP predicts that around 457,000 people would be affected by the proposals by 2029, while the Office for Budget Responsibility estimates that just 15,400 of them – around one in 30 – will find paid work as a result. 

    And those figures, published in April this year, were not available to people responding to the DWP’s consultation.

    This is very important as it is correctly sourced, if the prediction is that with support 15000 people will find work, then why is there plans to reclassify nearly half a million people?
    Also of interest is that the DWP did this consultation before doing any kind of impact assessment. Whilst I cant see the case getting anywhere, I am glad someone has at least initiated it.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 3,543 Championing

    Reform wants to come out of ECHR and no benefits

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 3,543 Championing

    Been reading DWP spending 3.5 million helping with bad backs and joint issues

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 3,543 Championing
  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 3,543 Championing

    I don't know seems like the judge was asking for more information from the DWP

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Online Community Member Posts: 614 Pioneering

    If it is reform you are talking about they are not far right. Far right is what the nazi party was in Germany. They have not said they would get rid of welfare, they want people who are fit and able to work.

  • Morgan_Scope
    Morgan_Scope Posts: 705 Scope Online Community Coordinator

    Good morning @Catherine21. It's important to remember that the media often puts a spin on things or downplays issues. When they call it just 'bad backs and joint issues,' it can make people think that those affected don’t really need support from the DWP. In reality, these conditions can be very painful and limit people's ability to work or increase their support needs, so the help from DWP is really important.

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Online Community Member Posts: 614 Pioneering

    Yes I have terrible joint issues which is autoimmune. It effects my lower back, feet, wrists fingers, knees, neck, shoulders, and now legs. It's joint hypermobility syndrome which also effects digestive system, fatigue, effects gums, headaches. In pain all the time

  • whistles
    whistles Online Community Member Posts: 2,019 Championing

    To cut costs as always.

    In 2029 we could have another government and so begins all the uncertainty again.

    It's always been about saving money. Never about actually helping.

  • Kaliwax
    Kaliwax Online Community Member Posts: 93 Empowering

    Repeal the equality act, leave the ECHR, reduce worker's rights, they don't believe in mental health issues, they think most people who are disabled are faking it. Remove the Health and Safety Laws

  • Kaliwax
    Kaliwax Online Community Member Posts: 93 Empowering

    Reform will send everyone out to work whether they like it or not? They don't want doctors involved in to assess whether you are fit to work or not, they want to bring their own people in, with their own agenda.

    Plus the 4 months to get a job isn't going to be easy for the disabled is it? If Reform get in, I do fear for us disabled.

  • Kaliwax
    Kaliwax Online Community Member Posts: 93 Empowering

    Im worried about them repealing the equality act, and leaving the ECHR. They won't have GP's involved in their own fit to work/disability assessments either. Plus they said if you dont get a job within 4 months your benefits stops, I don't think I know a disabled person who got a job in less than 4 months.

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Online Community Member Posts: 614 Pioneering

    What evidence have you got that reform will fo this ?, ECHR have done nothing to help disabled people from the torys, dwp, only care about foreign criminals can't be deported.

  • Biblioklept
    Biblioklept Online Community Member Posts: 92 Empowering

    I think the ECHR provides a lot of protections to disabled people and I'd be very very worried about leaving it!!!

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 3,543 Championing

    I think we still need echr imagine uk writing own human rights I've read many articles stating reform will come out of echr and will look at abolishing benefits

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 3,543 Championing

    What's worrying is already deliberately putting in so many different articles people couldn't be deported due to ECHR so people get uneasy but what they don't relize it protects disabled and workers alot of people in uk it's not hard to control the people they put something out there and everyone argues between each others do it myself how I wish we would all unite and demand the life's we all deserve and my personal thought is labour pushed to spring to see what actually happens with ellen clifford case was reading labour was really pushing back on it but the judge demanded some of the information from DWP

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 3,543 Championing

    That's what ellen clifford stated that it's all about cutting money even the judges everyone knows it was reading don't know how true but said 3.5 million to help people with back problems and joint issues back to work

  • whistles
    whistles Online Community Member Posts: 2,019 Championing

    Where is the official article discussing this.

    I am ignoring anything from social media or newspapers looking to stir the pot.

    They will need to support people back into work, that's going to cost money. Probably more than they will actually save if the truth be told!

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 3,320 Championing
    edited December 2024

    I'm more worried about the far right getting in 5 years time. I think the far right, will get rid of any welfare all together

    Kaliwax, I don't think there's any chance of Reform ever getting into power - they'll have a new name in 5 years' time anyway! Fringe groups aren't new in the UK. They take a few seats from the Tory's, that's all they can do.

    Don't get drawn into others' migrant talk on a thread about getting Britain working again is my gentle advice to you.

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 3,320 Championing
    edited December 2024

    Can we all please keep this thread on topic?

    Official thread: ‘Get Britain Working’ White Paper released Tuesday 26th November

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