WCA consultation ruled unlawful - White paper, part 2

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  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 3,690 Championing
    edited February 1

    Indeed, Timms pledged almost 10 years ago to help "claimants abandoned in the Support Group" so no change there.

    None of this is new or unexpected.

  • MadMilan2019
    MadMilan2019 Online Community Member Posts: 59 Empowering

    Will people write to the Metro paper - email address above), other papers TV etc.? please

    Thank you, because moaning and doing nothing about it will not change a thing.

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 3,690 Championing

    What do you imagine they can/will do?

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 3,690 Championing

    If you've been on benefits for 20+ years then you will remember protests going back 10 years following the first national reassessment programme.

    The media fell silent but cross-party talks continued as usual. Now we're up in arms about it?

  • MadMilan2019
    MadMilan2019 Online Community Member Posts: 59 Empowering

    Still, there's no action e.g. writing to MPs, the media etc, so how can you expect positive chnge re Getting Britain Working? Cynical non action never changes anything, but only makes what bad worse.

    The energy people put into negativity could be put into campaigning.

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 3,690 Championing

    Why wait until now to start campaigning ??

  • MadMilan2019
    MadMilan2019 Online Community Member Posts: 59 Empowering

    Are you campaigning now?

    I started months ago.

    "Not everything that is faced can be changed. But nothing can be changed until it is faced" – James Baldwin

    Back USA civil rights activist, and writer.

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 3,690 Championing

    Have you read any of my posts?

  • michael57
    michael57 Online Community Member Posts: 1,336 Championing

    trouble is to many people read with there eyes and not there brain

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 3,690 Championing
    edited February 1

    Wafting hot air around more like.

    I can see how they got Brexit done in only six weeks lol!!

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,042 Championing

    What shall we write im terrible spelling everything but i agree we need to start NOW

  • MadMilan2019
    MadMilan2019 Online Community Member Posts: 59 Empowering
    edited February 4

    Thank you Catherine21 indeed.

    I think you have recovered, at least in part, since your cry for help. You are strog, courageous and compassionate for yourself and others.

    Firstly

    Write to your MP

    I am anxious fearful and depressed, even suicidal just at the thought of the Getting Britain Working reforms.

    Because although the Govt has promised through Stephen Timms, the DWP minister, that all disabled people will be supported into work, and not bullied, such measures as:

    searching peoples' bank accounts, and assuming without asking the claimant first, as is the case in Canada, and taking back any monies not given except in DWP benefits, is too strong.

    Due process demands we have a human right to a fair hearing ECHR Article 7.

    And the general tone of the proposals of GBW is harsh - there is little or no recognition, or true empathic, compassionate understanding of disabled peoples' genuine needs, and the 1000s of diagnoses' adverse effects of disabled people's live.

    The GWB should be written 'with' disabled people representative lawyers in Parliament, and thus delayed for a year.

    Previous governments of all political colours have FAILED in previous similar reforms, because they did not truly understand the complexity of the task to genuinely support disabled human beings, into work. [content removed]

    Previous governments failed massively, and unemployment did not go down, overall of disabled people, because

    disabled peoples' views were not listened to, or their representative organisations, and alliances;

    hence the 10s of 1000s of suicides over the decades of disabled people, increased poverty of disabled people - yet it costs about £1200/ year more to live as a disabled person because of the extra living costs of disability;

    the govt in its law making did not have the right balance at all of compassion, and support/encouragement into work, recognising many severely complexly, terminally ill people could not work, and should receive a higher rate of benefits, and not 'stick' as force /violence is illegal, but assertiveness, not bullying intimidation, or harassment;

    Also, the Equality and Human Rights Commission has said your govt and previous governments have not met yet, or fully implemented their recommendations to fully include disabled people in the U.K.

    And Further the UN Disabled People's Carter of Rights also say Britain has not fully implemented disabled peoples human rights, and the U.. is a signatory.

    We want to help the government succeed, and have compassion, and preserve our basic constitution human rights within liberal democracy, such:

    Right to Life;

    Duty of Care;

    Rightof the citizen to dignity and respect (not to be talked down to by DWP and Jobcentre staff as is currently common);

    Freedom from bullying, harassment by state staff including but not only, DWP and Jobcentre+ staff, because it does happen , and legal complaints have been mounted.

    Health and safety.

    Sincerely

    Sign your name please

    That will do for now.

    Everyone can think of their own individual letters to their MPs -

    please Google your ''Find your MP'' if you do not who your MP is.

    Thanks.

    I am still asking, like some others in SCOPE for a SCOPE Template letter, and one agreed with Disability Rights UK, Disability Alliance, Mind Legal Unit, Age UK, SANE, etc. any group affected by GWB, and who is protesting against it, because it is not disabled-friendly, and nurturing, but instead is already causing suicides at its prospect!!!

    Be positive. Be strong. Survive.

    Even thrive.

    Choose to be a political warrior, and a spiritual warrior of compassion, and for your own well-being too, do not forget!

    You are brave, recovering, strong, and kind Catherine21; I salute you, you deserve joy,

    as does anyone else who writes to their MPs,

    and send a copy to SCOPE's Campaigns Department please.

    Thank you.

  • Ironside1990
    Ironside1990 Online Community Member Posts: 310 Empowering

    Richard Burgon has spoken out against the scapegoating of disabled people on benefits.

  • worried33
    worried33 Online Community Member Posts: 894 Championing
    edited February 3

    Very proud of her, this shows fighting things early is the way to go, rather than sitting here until its too late. Where is her knighthood.

    I think details are here?

    https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Clifford-v-SSWP-Judgment-16-January-2025.pdf

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 3,690 Championing
    edited February 3

    Conclusion

    137. I find that each of Grounds 1A, 1B (to the extent described above) and 2 are established by the Claimant. Taking them together, I consider that the Claimant has surmounted the substantial hurdle of establishing that the consultation was so unfair as to be unlawful. Indeed, had the Claimant only established Grounds 1A and 1B (together); or had she only separately established Ground 1A; or Ground 1B; or Ground 2, then I would in this case still have found that the Consultation was so unfair as to be unlawful.

  • MadMilan2019
    MadMilan2019 Online Community Member Posts: 59 Empowering

    Great news re Richard Burgon, MP, Independent

    (he was Labour and voted against the 2 child benefit cap, and suspended for doing so- so much for democracy' our governments are elected dictatorships, as Conservative Lord Hailsham said decades ago)

    I wrote to him several times re WCA / WCA Tests etc. and re Israels genocide, and other matters.

    Exactly what did he say?:

    Today I called for an end to the scapegoating of disabled people on benefits. There is hardly any fraud in the disability benefits system.

  • MadMilan2019
    MadMilan2019 Online Community Member Posts: 59 Empowering


    “Misleading”, “rushed”, and “unfair” consultation on work capability assessment reforms declared unlawful – an important victory for Disabled people

    TagsNewsEllen Clifford, the disability activist and Disabled People Against Cuts (DPAC) member, has won her judicial case against the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) over its consultation held to justify benefit cuts.

    The consultation was held in 2023 on proposed changes to the work capability assessment (WCA).

    The DWP uses the WCA to evaluate whether Disabled people are eligible for the extra health component of Universal Credit or Employment Support Allowance and have restricted work conditionality.  

    The High Court has ruled that the DWP acted unlawfully by presenting controversial benefit assessment reforms as a way to support disabled people into work, without making clear that the proposals also included “substantial” cuts to disability benefits and that cost savings was a “primary rationale” for the proposals.  

    It also found that the consultation failed to explain that planned reforms would lead to around 450,000 Disabled people receiving lower benefit rates and that many would be worse off by at least £416.19 per month and was unlawfully short given the circumstances. 

    The Public Law Project, acting for Clifford, has argued that the consultation was unlawful for several reasons, including that: 

    • It did not explain properly that many people would receive significantly less money if impacted by the reforms, and start being required to meet conditions (or, in some cases, meet more stringent conditions) in order to receive their payments, with a risk of sanctions if they did not meet them. 
    • The true or primary motive behind the consultation was to reduce spending on disability benefits, which was not disclosed. The consultation papers had presented the proposals as being about helping people to move into or closer to the labour market, without providing any evidence at all to explain how this purported aim would be met.  
    • A consultation that ran for just under 8 weeks was too short, given the importance of the proposals and the additional time that Deaf and Disabled people and their organisations need to engage meaningfully in this context. 

    Over the course of the judicial review, internal DWP documents revealed that: 

    • The DWP had not carried out any employment, equality or disability assessment on the impact of the proposals prior to the consultation being launched, though civil servants had identified that almost 100,000 people could move into poverty, based on certain internal estimates. The equality impact assessment that was completed after the consultation was launched remains unpublished; 
    • Civil servants were aware that the proposals would have a particularly strong impact on those with pre-existing, significant mental health conditions and suicidal ideation, and that the “reduction in income alone might be a bigger contributory factor to a deterioration in mental health than undertaking work preparatory activity”; 
    • Civil servants made proposals to ministers on what changes to consult on based on the fiscal impact, with the emphasis being on scorable savings that could be announced for the Autumn Statement 2023. Internal documents recorded for example, that “… the Prime Minister indicated that the DWP should consult on reforms to the WCA gateway in time to score them for the Autumn Statement…”  
    • The DWP was also aware that the proposals would be controversial and that there was a risk they’d be “perceived as purely cost-saving measures by influential disability rights groups, individual stakeholders and by SSAC”, leading to recommendations that “a wider narrative based on modern and home working” was also developed.
    • Internal documents demonstrate that the Secretary of State considered including particular proposals as part of the consultation, notwithstanding that they would not lead to savings, solely because this could be “useful” to support a narrative that the motivation for consultation was about the importance of getting more people into work and not saving money.  

    In his judgment, Mr. Justice Calver found that the consultation was “misleading”, “rushed” and “unfair”: 

    • The consultation documents were misleading for failing to highlight the “substantial” loss of benefit payments that those impacted by the proposals would face and created a “misleading impression” that changes were required to ensure certain Deaf and Disabled People could access employment support. In reality, the changes were about compelling them to access this support, which they could already choose to access voluntarily. Mr. Justice Calver described this as a “false rationale”, relied upon by DWP in its consultation.  
    • The evidence before him strongly supported the conclusion that “costs savings was at least one of the two bases, if not the central basis, on which decisions would be taken on which policies would be taken forward by the Government.”  In the circumstances, the judge considered that the SSWP “ought in fairness to have made clear that AME cost savings were, together with work inactivity, the rationale for the proposals” and that “disclosure of this highly relevant fact, was required”.  
    • A consultation that ran for just under eight weeks was unlawfully short in the circumstances, given the importance of the matters under consultation, the fact that DWP had already announced a significant consultation on the Disability Action Plan and the lack of any prior notice that SSWP wanted to consult on proposals of this nature, which was unexpected given the very recently published Transforming Support: The Health and Disability White Paper.
    • Mr Justice Calver observed: The unfair burden upon vulnerable people of having to deal with a yet further consultation process at this time at such short notice cannot be overstated" and in setting the consultation period, the Defendant ought to have had more regard to the attributes of those people who would be affected by these proposals. These were proposals which, in particular, could potentially drive vulnerable people into poverty as well as adversely affecting disabled people and substantial risk claimants who have mental health conditions and suicide ideation.” 

    Ellen Clifford said: “Through this judicial review, it became clear that there was a complete disregard for equality or disability impacts in this consultation process. No disability or equality impacts, or even employment outcomes, were evaluated before or during the consultation. We now know that an equality impact assessment was produced, but it remains unpublished.

    “The DWP did calculate cost savings, however, confirming what many disabled people feared: that cuts to disability benefits had been prioritised over lives. However, DWP chose not to admit this as part of the consultation.”

    “Instead, we now know that civil servants and ministers were making desperate attempts to ‘find’ a rationale for the cuts, which they thought would be less controversial, and even considered consulting on particular proposals that would have generated negligible savings, to make it appear as though saving money was not their primary motive. It is heartening that Mr Justice Calver agreed with us that this is ‘back to front policy making.’”

    “The lack of transparency in this consultation was overwhelming and I am relieved that the judge has recognised that this is not the right way to engage the Disabled community. 

    She added: “But the crucial question is what lessons the Government should learn from this case. Measures to help the economy should not require the impoverishment and suffering of hundreds of thousands of Disabled people. Such measures would simply represent a false economy in that they will substantially increase pressures on public services such as the NHS and lead to higher spending in other areas. 

    “DWP’s own civil servants acknowledged this internally when they recognised that the proposed reduction in income for people with significant mental health conditions and suicidal ideation could contribute to further deterioration in their mental health.”  

    “That is why we are calling for these harmful reforms to the work capability assessment to be dropped.” 

    Ken Butler, DR UK’s Welfare Rights and Policy Adviser said: “Disability Rights UK congratulates Ellen Clifford in bringing her legal action and achieving this important legal victory. Without her steadfast, principled and brave campaigning, the DWP would not have suffered the conclusive loss it has.

     “The DWP consultation has been found to be unlawful as it was “misleading”, “rushed” and “unfair”. The ruling that cost savings were at least one if not the “central basis” that was the impetus to the proposed reforms should be a wake-up call for the current Government, who seem intent on bringing similar proposals forward in the Spring.

     “It did not explain properly that 450,000 Disabled people would receive significantly less money (£416 per month) if impacted by the reforms and would be subject to tighter requirements around work-related activity. Although the Government is to publish a Green Paper on work capability assessment and personal independence payment reforms this Spring, it has remained tight-lipped as to its contents.

     “Given the High Court’ ruling, we call on the Government to clearly state it does intend to pursue the last administration’s unlawful cost-cutting consultation proposals.

    “Instead of pursuing the further impoverishment of Disabled people, it needs to co-produce reforms that will protect our rights to an adequate standard of living.”

    The High Court’s judgement in R (on the application of Ellen Clifford) v Secretary of State for Work and Pensions is available from judiciaryuk.

    For further information see our news stories:

     

  • worried33
    worried33 Online Community Member Posts: 894 Championing
    edited February 6

    I watched the Youtube Ellen interview as well, she pointed out she had to deal with people saying she was fighting nothing as they thought Labour had no interest in this sort of thing, so glad she ignored them, the video shown the government's response as well which is not unexpected, they have confirmed already they will do consultation again, and also confirmed their chief motivation which is for spending cuts in the same statement.

    Looking at MadMilan's post, (thank you for posting this), the evidence looks pretty damning at this point, I think that this stuff got made public might be as big a win as the judgement itself.

  • MadMilan2019
    MadMilan2019 Online Community Member Posts: 59 Empowering

    Thank you girls guys in betweeners those of different gender and sexualities, other than heterosexual.

    I feel honoured because I never meant to lead, and inspire the best in people, I mean I DID but

    but just did not expect it would succeed so much.

    Its not about ego, pride, because we all know where that leads don't we?

    Its about our human rights, we are worth life, love, all the good things in life, life is for living.

    And part of it is

    our comradeship with each other as disabled people, boosting each others survivor thriver esteem, not suiciding, but battling on with love, even for our 'enemies' like Gandhi, Mandela, like the best in ourselves.

    Thank you from the bottom of my heartmindsoul,

    and

    keep struggling and fighting on together, never give up do not give up.

    We are all stronger than we know, and much stronger together.

    Keep writing to the media, to your MP even the PM and DWP minister, keep taking legal action,

    I DO strongly feel we need a mass lobby of Parliament with other disability organisations in the next few months, with other disability groups like Disability Alliance, Disability Rights UK, Mind, etc. etc.

    And with a media storm of publicity to persuade our case for not stigma, but help not persecution, human rights, and support into work as defined by us, and more benefits for for with those with disability, who cannot work.

  • MadMilan2019
    MadMilan2019 Online Community Member Posts: 59 Empowering

    Rebecca Solnit/joy is a strategy@RebeccaSolnit

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    They want you to feel powerless and surrender and let them trample everything and you are not going to let them.

    You are not giving up, and neither am I.

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