Labour doubles down on slashing billions from DWP's disability benefits bill

MyHappy256
MyHappy256 Online Community Member Posts: 62 Contributor

Not to be a worrywart, but this was posted in Big issue 16-1-25

https://www.bigissue.com/news/social-justice/dwp-disability-benefits-bill-high-court-ruling/

and now there is a new link on Facebook Disability something facebook page, lost the link, but it says this has been confirmed to go ahead despite a court ruling?

It refers to reforming work capability rules, presumably ESA working or support now UC and savings from new claimants?

I just wanted to know if anyone has any more information about this, when they are referring to new claimants, is that for existing people being moved from legacy benefits onto UC or is it for brand new claimants not yet on benefits?

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  • MyHappy256
    MyHappy256 Online Community Member Posts: 62 Contributor

    CAB told me last year, that when they switch me to UC, I would lost £400 per month, now this article refers to losing £400 per month, am wondering whether ths is the same thing or something else?

  • Dave1993
    Dave1993 Online Community Member Posts: 163 Empowering

    just have to wait and find out

  • Jimm_Scope
    Jimm_Scope Posts: 5,717 Scope Online Community Specialist
    edited January 30

    Hey @MyHappy256, I am afraid I am not 100% sure if they are discussing the same £400 a month. I will take a quick look around for some more information though, there is just so much in the air at the moment as very little has been set in stone yet.

  • judie
    judie Online Community Member Posts: 239 Empowering
  • FeistyPigeon
    FeistyPigeon Online Community Member Posts: 237 Empowering

    Disability Rights has this Mr Happy:

    https://www.disabilityrightsuk.org/news/half-million-disabled-people-set-lose-out-when-dwp-scraps-%E2%80%98work-capability-assessment-test

    Looks like Labour's intention, which the Tories planned to do, is to limit the extra limited capability of work benefit element to those who also claim PIP. McGovern made a vague statement yesterday to limit extra sickness benefits to "those who really need it". By the sound of it, this is what they're thinking of. It'll screw thousands of us, as they've made it so hard to qualify for PIP now.

    There's just one silver lining you can read in my ref:

    the DWP maintain that existing claimants will receive transitional protection, this is by its nature temporary and will inevitably reduce. If the reforms are introduced, new claimants will feel their effects immediately.

    So in other words, they'll keep our elements going while slamming anyone new who has the misfortune to end up on universal credit. But of course I bet this won't last for ever, they give medical assessments every year or so, so when our time comes… my suspicion is they'll treat us under the new rules and cut our benefits too.

    If you're disabled you're disabled, for heaven's sake. We haven't got the health to work and yet they'll be slashing our benefits. I hate this "Labour" lot - Tories in new clothes + expensive freebie glasses

  • Nightcity
    Nightcity Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 3,281 Championing

    We need to remember that whatever they want and whatever they say doesn't matter.

    They are a very unpopular government using disgusting language, there are laws and protections and also many charities and activists ready to pounce on anything nasty.

    the process of changes is a very slow one and you can almost guarantee they'll be delays and watering down along the way, The responses in most places online are negative to our treatment so the water testing articles show the water is going to give them third degree burns of they go there.

    I know it's extremely hard for some of you, but please try to forget it all at least for a few months and fill in the consultations when they arrive.

  • TG0601
    TG0601 Online Community Member Posts: 68 Empowering
    edited January 30

    It states it would affect new applicants.


    “The proposals would cut around £400 a month from the disability benefits of hundreds of thousands of new applicants by 2029”

  • shadows22
    shadows22 Online Community Member Posts: 2 Listener

    oh stop this nonsense, no one knows what they intend to do,you’re scaring a lot of people with your nonsense.

  • Nightcity
    Nightcity Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 3,281 Championing

    He was worried and has a right to express that or ask, that's not the best start to your time here and completely uncalled for.

  • noman
    noman Online Community Member Posts: 1,687 Trailblazing

    @shadows22

    Is exactly right with their comment and you don’t help by constantly posting links to doom & gloom!!

  • Nightcity
    Nightcity Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 3,281 Championing
    edited January 30
  • mac99
    mac99 Online Community Member Posts: 18 Connected

    that disability rights article was from october 2023.

  • MyHappy256
    MyHappy256 Online Community Member Posts: 62 Contributor

    Thank you to those of you who posted helpful comments.

    I am just wondering if when we are required to transition from legacy benefits to UC if it means it is a new claim or an existing claim, since it is new to UC but existing as a legacy benefit?

  • Kimmy87
    Kimmy87 Online Community Member Posts: 3,156 Championing
    edited January 30

    Treated as a new claim to UC.

    As I've said repeatedly elsewhere as nothing official will be released until the Spring, the best thing anyone can do is stop reading these articles.

    Everything between now and then will only be speculation, opinion, probably inaccurate or as keeps happening, previous Conservative plans.

  • judie
    judie Online Community Member Posts: 239 Empowering

    Whatever you said - I agree 😄

    You work very hard to keep people calm and allay their fears

  • Nightcity
    Nightcity Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 3,281 Championing

    thanks Judie.

    decided to delete it, member is permanently on ignore now, everything they post is roll eyes emoji, ffs, sarcastic etc.

    I keep links in the good news thread mainly and only trusted sites, if they go in there (by choice) just to whine that's on them. (that thread wasn't originally meant to be ongoing but ironically it was because most people found it helpful) needs s name change now to rolling information or something.

    anyway I'll say no more on it and let the thread get back on track.

  • noman
    noman Online Community Member Posts: 1,687 Trailblazing
  • judie
    judie Online Community Member Posts: 239 Empowering

    I don't know who he's talking about, I just know he's a good bloke. And I'm still bitter about having my 'Trump is delusional ' comment removed by admin. so I'm full of righteous indignation, especially after what he said yesterday about diversity and disabled people. Now that's a person who deserves denigrating!

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