Upcoming changes to benefits

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  • tcellmutation
    tcellmutation Online Community Member Posts: 341 Empowering

    So am I right in saying even if you have 2pts in every activity you won't even qualify for PIP...

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    Look at the question for washing , 4 points if you can’t wash yourself above your waist up to your shoulders but 2 points if you can’t wash your hair which last time I looked was on my head above my shoulders . So basically they’ll ask can you wash your hair and if you can’t you get 2 points but if you also can’t wash above your waist will you get that 4Points or the 2 ? This happened to me and they try award points so you don’t complain and as long as you get enough points it’s ok . But with these changes it be the difference between getting your award or being turned down.

  • JonnycJonny
    JonnycJonny Scope Member Posts: 253 Empowering

    It would seem that at least 16 points would now be needed to get the higher PIP rate for Daily Living - with a minimum of four points in 2 activities and another 8 points from the rest. Nothing mentioned yet in the media about Mobility.

    All speculation until Tuesday.

  • johnnyy85
    johnnyy85 Online Community Member Posts: 266 Empowering

    I currently get high rate daily living my highest point scoring was 3 washing and bathing and I got 16 points across the scoring on other activities, this woke mean I will lose my high rate and not even get lower rate

  • tcellmutation
    tcellmutation Online Community Member Posts: 341 Empowering

    a minimum of four points in 2 activities? Where does it say this?

  • JonnycJonny
    JonnycJonny Scope Member Posts: 253 Empowering

    Applicants to score at least four points on at least one activity to qualify.

    Those who meet this threshold would need another four points to qualify for the lower rate of payment. An additional eight points would be needed for the higher rate, too, it has been reported."

    That's mv interpretation of the above.

  • tcellmutation
    tcellmutation Online Community Member Posts: 341 Empowering

    My interpretation is you need 4 points on at least one activity and additional points can be made up from other activities even if they score below 4 points

  • JonnycJonny
    JonnycJonny Scope Member Posts: 253 Empowering
    edited March 2025

    It could also be just 4 points in one activity and the other 12 points made up from any number of points in the other activities. It isn't totally clear.

    All mere speculation for the time being any way and a long way off.

  • tcellmutation
    tcellmutation Online Community Member Posts: 341 Empowering
    edited March 2025

    At least 4 points in any one activity to even be considered for PIP

    At least 4 more points from any other activities to qualify for the lower rate (so 8 points in total)

    4 more points on top of that to qualify for the higher rate (so 12 points in total)

  • JonnycJonny
    JonnycJonny Scope Member Posts: 253 Empowering

    Agreed. We'll have to see - the devil will be in the detail.

  • tcellmutation
    tcellmutation Online Community Member Posts: 341 Empowering

    Thankfully I still meet that strict threshold and currently receiving the light touch to be reviewed again in 2029 but who knows if they'll wanna reassess again before this and score me lower so I don't meet the new threshold 🙄

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    if these plans go through. Another con as in my experience my assessor gave me enough points to get awarded but on some questions gave me 2 points when I should have scored more. But obviously knew I wouldn’t complain as I had the points needed.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    it seems misleading to me as I read it as 4 points for at least one question plus 4 for lower. 4 points for one question plus 8 points higher . I can’t see how you need 4 points once but still get an additional 12 points . 16 points seems as though you’d need to gain points once every question. Especially as In my experience they seem to award 2 points per question.

  • tcellmutation
    tcellmutation Online Community Member Posts: 341 Empowering
  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Online Community Member Posts: 3,119 Championing
    edited March 2025

    One important point - the government can't backdate eligibility

    ie) If you were eligible for PIP, 2 years ago - you are still eligible today (unless something changes by way of your health improvement, which would need another assessment) - they can't backdate rule changes

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    god I hope I am . I think if it’s 16 points it would disallow most people I reckon. Hopefully someone on here can clarify though obviously we don’t know anything for sure

  • JonnycJonny
    JonnycJonny Scope Member Posts: 253 Empowering

    We are all in the dark till Tuesday - even then it will remain some way off before changes are implemented.

    The move from a Green Paper to a White Paper and then legislation will require a number of steps not least of which being a ping pong between the Commons and Lords.

    Try and get some fresh air and sunshine today - that's my recommendation and plan for the rest of the day at least.

    Best wishes

  • evelyncourtney
    evelyncourtney Online Community Member Posts: 104 Empowering

    DPAC (Disabled People Against Cuts) are holding a parliamentary meeting tomorrow afternoon:

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  • Ray212
    Ray212 Online Community Member Posts: 738 Empowering
    edited March 2025

    https://act.38degrees.org.uk/act/no-cruel-cuts-to-benefits

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