Upcoming changes to benefits

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  • Ironside1990
    Ironside1990 Online Community Member Posts: 310 Empowering

    Deleting my search history, seems to have done the trick. My entire homepage has been wiped completely, got a clean slate.

    Recommend everyone else does this and just watches things that they're interested in.

    Thanks, Kimmy.

  • worried33
    worried33 Online Community Member Posts: 902 Championing
    edited March 16

    No idea, one of the reasons I want to get in touch. If a plaintiff is needed I will volunteer. But my assumption is the PIP consultation given that it was far worse than the WCA consultation, could be challenged successfully. The descriptor changes the press are claiming, were in the PIP consultation, its possible they are guessing based on that, and the actual changes could be different, but we do know some kind of eligibility change is planned, and logically without a new consultation they will use something from the consultation.

  • Vogue
    Vogue Online Community Member Posts: 62 Connected

    Why Target pip when it's a none means tested benefit

  • Ironside1990
    Ironside1990 Online Community Member Posts: 310 Empowering

    There are rumours that the PIP freeze has been cancelled. That's all they are though, just rumours. We'll know more when the green paper is released.

  • tcellmutation
    tcellmutation Online Community Member Posts: 339 Empowering

    Yea if this goes ahead I can feel compensation coming on in years to come. After a 5 year investigation and another 5 years to pay out

  • Fonseca54
    Fonseca54 Online Community Member Posts: 1 Listener

    I'm waiting to find out how much my Universal Credit is going to be cut by or even if I'm going to be ineligible - this is unbearable. I have severe mental health problems and cannot work at all at the moment. My anxiety has increased ten-fold, I can't sleep or eat and there are so many unanswered questions.

    Will those suffering from mental health issues who can't work still be eligible for incapacity benefits?

    Are existing claimants going to be reassessed?

    How much is Universal Credit going to be cut by?

    I have a law degree from Manchester University - if there was any way I could work at the moment I would and I assure Liz Kendall that I'm not taking the mickey. Life has been unbearable but the benefit has been a lifeline. I don't know how I will cope without it. Do they really think these measures are going to help people like me?

  • tcellmutation
    tcellmutation Online Community Member Posts: 339 Empowering
    edited March 16

    "new system will require applicants to score at least four points on at least one activity to qualify.

    Those who meet this threshold would need another four points to qualify for the lower rate of payment. An additional eight points would be needed for the higher rate, too, it has been reported."

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 674 Championing

    for me needing the 4 points for one question is a problem because in my experience with assessors they give points according to how empathetic they are . With my conditions pain spreads making it difficult to answer their questions. I had written that I couldn’t wash above my waist and other times below too. My assessor ignored what would have awarded 4 points to give me 2 . So if you get a bad assessor and you can’t wash above the waist that should be 4 Points but if they ask can you wash your hair and you say no that’s 2 points if I remember correctly. So in my case I was awarded the lower amount. Next time I will be recording everything.

    I also think the forms aren’t flexible enough and maybe there should be a separate form for MH and neurodivergent claimants . But obviously same amounts of award.

  • Loulou82xx
    Loulou82xx Online Community Member Posts: 50 Empowering

    I wish the media would stop saying Autism is a mental health condition it is a neurodevelopemnt condition. Autism is a whole spectrum some people have it and are able to function but some have it and mutism and are not able to live independently and function on their own. It is the broad brush they are using to basically say Neurodivergent conditions and Mental health conditions will be targeted, again with mental health some have mild anxiety and depression and some have completely debilitating anxiety and depression rendering them housebound.

    People with Autism and ADHD are more likely to also suffer mental health conditions as a result of their disability but that is true of everybody who is disabled, being ill does make you more likely to also suffer depression, in my case just from being in pain daily it does take a toll on your mental health.

    I am physically disabled and I agree we all have to stick together as if they come for one group they will eventually come for us all.

  • Loulou82xx
    Loulou82xx Online Community Member Posts: 50 Empowering

    Some people have mentioned Ellen Clifford she is part of a group called disabled people against cuts ( DPAC )

    https://dpac.uk.net/

    They have information about protests and what they doing to get organised if anybody is interested. If the link doesn't work then just type in DPAC and I am sure it will bring up the correct page.

  • Vulcress
    Vulcress Online Community Member Posts: 88 Empowering

    I see Streeting is doing a Miliband and now an expert on every medical/disability out there.

    The entire point of PIP and one of the reasons people with Cancer were refused, its not what's wrong but how the condition/disability affects you.

    Try talking Long Covid Wes, the legacy of a pandemic they openly said was handled horrendously, Top consultants are now reliant on Benefits having lost everything.

    Many local health boards do not even have long covid clinics and wont even mention the condition. Reid off GMB summed it up perfectly on the BBC earlier, If Starmers plan is to fund Ukraine via taking money off the weakest in society, good luck getting a 2nd term.

    They have alternate routes but as she pointed out it seems Starmer likes taking the easy one

    the one he knows provides the least pushback. Had he spoken like this during he Leadership contest He would not have won and I very much doubt Labour would have got the Numbers at the last Election. It seems since the Election actually maintaining trust has gone out the window.

    Another person summed it up perfectly last night, Who or what is "severely" disabled

    do they mean those with the severely disabled premium or another new set of criteria ?

    If they knew the damage they were doing would they even care?

    I spent the night being sick and my hair falling out in clumps I still feel so betrayed as a long term Labour Voter and once former Member I will never trust them again.

  • tcellmutation
    tcellmutation Online Community Member Posts: 339 Empowering

    So am I right in saying even if you have 2pts in every activity you won't even qualify for PIP...

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 674 Championing

    Look at the question for washing , 4 points if you can’t wash yourself above your waist up to your shoulders but 2 points if you can’t wash your hair which last time I looked was on my head above my shoulders . So basically they’ll ask can you wash your hair and if you can’t you get 2 points but if you also can’t wash above your waist will you get that 4Points or the 2 ? This happened to me and they try award points so you don’t complain and as long as you get enough points it’s ok . But with these changes it be the difference between getting your award or being turned down.

  • JonnycJonny
    JonnycJonny Scope Member Posts: 252 Empowering

    It would seem that at least 16 points would now be needed to get the higher PIP rate for Daily Living - with a minimum of four points in 2 activities and another 8 points from the rest. Nothing mentioned yet in the media about Mobility.

    All speculation until Tuesday.

  • johnnyy85
    johnnyy85 Online Community Member Posts: 72 Contributor

    I currently get high rate daily living my highest point scoring was 3 washing and bathing and I got 16 points across the scoring on other activities, this woke mean I will lose my high rate and not even get lower rate

  • tcellmutation
    tcellmutation Online Community Member Posts: 339 Empowering

    a minimum of four points in 2 activities? Where does it say this?

  • JonnycJonny
    JonnycJonny Scope Member Posts: 252 Empowering

    Applicants to score at least four points on at least one activity to qualify.

    Those who meet this threshold would need another four points to qualify for the lower rate of payment. An additional eight points would be needed for the higher rate, too, it has been reported."

    That's mv interpretation of the above.

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