Upcoming changes to benefits

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  • JonnycJonny
    JonnycJonny Scope Member Posts: 243 Empowering

    Applicants to score at least four points on at least one activity to qualify.

    Those who meet this threshold would need another four points to qualify for the lower rate of payment. An additional eight points would be needed for the higher rate, too, it has been reported."

    That's mv interpretation of the above.

  • tcellmutation
    tcellmutation Community Member Posts: 341 Empowering

    My interpretation is you need 4 points on at least one activity and additional points can be made up from other activities even if they score below 4 points

  • JonnycJonny
    JonnycJonny Scope Member Posts: 243 Empowering
    edited March 2025

    It could also be just 4 points in one activity and the other 12 points made up from any number of points in the other activities. It isn't totally clear.

    All mere speculation for the time being any way and a long way off.

  • tcellmutation
    tcellmutation Community Member Posts: 341 Empowering
    edited March 2025

    At least 4 points in any one activity to even be considered for PIP

    At least 4 more points from any other activities to qualify for the lower rate (so 8 points in total)

    4 more points on top of that to qualify for the higher rate (so 12 points in total)

  • JonnycJonny
    JonnycJonny Scope Member Posts: 243 Empowering

    Agreed. We'll have to see - the devil will be in the detail.

  • tcellmutation
    tcellmutation Community Member Posts: 341 Empowering

    Thankfully I still meet that strict threshold and currently receiving the light touch to be reviewed again in 2029 but who knows if they'll wanna reassess again before this and score me lower so I don't meet the new threshold 🙄

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    if these plans go through. Another con as in my experience my assessor gave me enough points to get awarded but on some questions gave me 2 points when I should have scored more. But obviously knew I wouldn’t complain as I had the points needed.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    it seems misleading to me as I read it as 4 points for at least one question plus 4 for lower. 4 points for one question plus 8 points higher . I can’t see how you need 4 points once but still get an additional 12 points . 16 points seems as though you’d need to gain points once every question. Especially as In my experience they seem to award 2 points per question.

  • tcellmutation
    tcellmutation Community Member Posts: 341 Empowering
  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Community Member Posts: 3,619 Championing
    edited March 2025

    One important point - the government can't backdate eligibility

    ie) If you were eligible for PIP, 2 years ago - you are still eligible today (unless something changes by way of your health improvement, which would need another assessment) - they can't backdate rule changes

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    god I hope I am . I think if it’s 16 points it would disallow most people I reckon. Hopefully someone on here can clarify though obviously we don’t know anything for sure

  • JonnycJonny
    JonnycJonny Scope Member Posts: 243 Empowering

    We are all in the dark till Tuesday - even then it will remain some way off before changes are implemented.

    The move from a Green Paper to a White Paper and then legislation will require a number of steps not least of which being a ping pong between the Commons and Lords.

    Try and get some fresh air and sunshine today - that's my recommendation and plan for the rest of the day at least.

    Best wishes

  • evelyncourtney
    evelyncourtney Community Member Posts: 104 Empowering

    DPAC (Disabled People Against Cuts) are holding a parliamentary meeting tomorrow afternoon:

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  • Ray212
    Ray212 Community Member Posts: 735 Empowering
    edited March 2025

    https://act.38degrees.org.uk/act/no-cruel-cuts-to-benefits

  • luvpink
    luvpink Community Member Posts: 5,144 Championing

    Saying on GBN government going to do a U turn over back lash from Ministers and MP's

  • Zipz
    Zipz Community Member Posts: 4,345 Championing
    edited March 2025

    Yes @worried33 The new points system doesn't make sense.

    A claimant can have a very major disability but only score less that eight points because the disability isn't multiple.

    Equally, a claimant with a multiple disability might score a lot of points but none of them as high as four, thus losing their claim. I'm reminded of the Tories' Green Paper last year. One of the questions was whether we thought claimants with a lot of low points ought to get the same amount of PIP. Sorry, I don't have the form to hand.

    I dint trust the points system as it is. Looking back to when DLA was launched and i got it for life, the focus seemed to be on the degree of disability rather than points.

  • tcellmutation
    tcellmutation Community Member Posts: 341 Empowering

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Z-UyXXcCBUiMY_2POvCQAhr7srbbodtmnCqEEIICW RQ/mobilebasic

  • geckobat
    geckobat Community Member Posts: 204 Empowering

    Only on the PIP freeze which is the least of our worries, sadly.

  • tcellmutation
    tcellmutation Community Member Posts: 341 Empowering
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