Green Paper Discussion (from 24th March, 2025)

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  • alexroda
    alexroda Online Community Member Posts: 116 Empowering

    who will financially gain from this package, with an average gain of £420 per year compared to inflation

    can someone explain who could be better off by £420 a year? I just can’t work it out or who are thinking about?

  • pinkrose
    pinkrose Online Community Member Posts: 160 Empowering

    Reeves just said "just because people are disabled doesn't mean they can't work", this was in rely to the Labour mp from Bradford who challenged her about the harm of 'cuts' to the most vulnerable.

  • Passerby
    Passerby Posts: 96 Empowering

    Here's a ready made letter to send to your MP.

    Re: Urgent Concerns About Benefit Cuts


    Dear MP,

    I am writing to express my deep concern about the current Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) consultation titled “Modernising Support: The Health and Disability Green Paper”, which proposes significant changes to Personal Independence Payment (PIP), Universal Credit (UC), and the Work Capability Assessment (WCA).
    While these changes will have profound and life-altering consequences for disabled people, the DWP has refused to consult on the most critical proposals, including:
    Abolishing the Work Capability Assessment (WCA)
    Freezing the UC health element (LCWRA) until 2029/30
    Introducing a new requirement to score at least 4 points in a single descriptor to receive the daily living component of PIP
    Merging PIP and UC assessments into a single system
    Restarting WCA reassessments ahead of its abolition
    These are major reforms with serious consequences for people with physical conditions, mental health challenges, neurodivergent profiles and fluctuating conditions — yet the public is being denied the opportunity to comment on them.

    Additionally, the DWP has withheld vital data on how many current claimants will be affected by these proposals. This includes:
    The number of people who will lose their PIP entitlement under the new rules
    Which health conditions are most at risk
    The projected financial and wellbeing impact on those affected
    This lack of transparency and accountability undermines the consultation process and potentially makes it unlawful, following the High Court’s ruling in January 2024 on similar grounds regarding the WCA.
    I am asking you to take urgent action by:
    Raising this matter in Parliament or the Lords, and asking the DWP to:
    Publish the missing impact data
    Extend and reopen the consultation to include all major proposals
    Calling for a genuine consultation process, co-designed with disabled people and user-led organisations
    Supporting or initiating parliamentary questions to hold the DWP accountable for the omission of key issues from the consultation
    Opposing any legislation based on this consultation until it has been subject to full public scrutiny

    This Green Paper risks causing serious harm to thousands of disabled people — not just through its policy proposals, but through the way it is being conducted. A consultation that does not allow people to respond to the most important questions is not just flawed — it is undemocratic.

    Please stand up for fairness, transparency, and the rights of disabled people by challenging this process and demanding a lawful, open, and inclusive approach.

    Thank you for taking the time to read this letter. I would be grateful for a response outlining your position and any steps you plan to take.

    Yours sincerely,
    **************Copy and paste the above letter and email it to your local MP and Councillors. We must all stand together and fight these cruel and immoral disability benefit cuts********************

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 4,646 Championing

    So if you have pip over the date due to come into effect will you be moved over ?

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 4,646 Championing

    But they just done investigation on dwp ?? Haven't heard outcome from that

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 4,646 Championing

    No I appreciate you replying did ant mps say anything was it thier time to say anything sorry to ask so many questions

  • alexroda
    alexroda Online Community Member Posts: 116 Empowering

    you fail to mention the creation of the unemployment insurance, which will substitute ESA CB. Which means that those receiving it will lose £5000 a year plus lose their NI contributions towards a future pension

  • Passerby
    Passerby Posts: 96 Empowering

    You can add whatever you feel like. I haven't created the letter myself, I was sharing it, as doing so was recommended on Benefits & Work forum where I've copied it from.

  • alexroda
    alexroda Online Community Member Posts: 116 Empowering

    im confused as how did the DWP came up with those figures!!!

    If you lose your PIP daily living allowance, as it stands in hats nearly £73 a week. You’ll also lose your health element in UC which is about £95 a week I think.

    That’s like losing £9000 a year!!!

    That’s not £1700. ****

  • alexroda
    alexroda Online Community Member Posts: 116 Empowering

    I don’t think that’s very good, that a letter shared online fails to mention key elements of the benefits cut that will affect generations to come condemning them to a life in poverty

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 4,646 Championing

    It's Discrimination at its finest was this the only topic ??? Vile they won't get away with it throwing everything at the book to see what gets through

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 619 Trailblazing

    it was just the benefits and work website. No interviews or anything. I don’t know how to post it here for you as I’m not that good at that but you can read it on their website. It sent me into a panic but mawempathy explained things and it put my mind at rest . I don’t know if you saw my earlier post about the justice journals latest video regarding ASD. Apparently she helped someone with autism who was found cured by the DWP! The woman who does the channel worked for the dwp and took them to court .

  • alexroda
    alexroda Online Community Member Posts: 116 Empowering

    especially on a subject that’s very badly written in the Green Paper, it is confusing as well as it hides the future implications of such change.

    A change that MPs dont understand unless you point it out to them.

    A change that on paper looks good but if you look deeper it’s very bad.

    A change that’s misleading and can be easily challenged in court

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 619 Trailblazing

    it’s worth looking on their website and joining as they send updates by email. This government is truly evil. Jeremy Corbyn gave a good interview on sky news. He said labour MPs have started talking to him suddenly and they’re upset at what’s going on . Fingers crossed they’re brave enough to stand up for us

  • Santosha12
    Santosha12 Online Community Member Posts: 676 Empowering

    I've not seen Jeremy Corbyn or Diane Abbott in the House today.

  • alexroda
    alexroda Online Community Member Posts: 116 Empowering

    I think it’s a bit early to come to that conclusion.

    I’d give it another 6 months. See how things are then to have an idea if changes are to happen/watered down etc

  • Santosha12
    Santosha12 Online Community Member Posts: 676 Empowering

    Totally agree with you sadly. I don't think they'll ease it even when they see the results of it.

  • sparrow77
    sparrow77 Online Community Member Posts: 51 Empowering

    Great to see all the people on the streets making a stand against it today across the country.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 619 Trailblazing

    both Jeremy Corbyn and John McDonnell being interviewed in a protest I think outside parliament today . Politics Joe on YouTube

  • Santosha12
    Santosha12 Online Community Member Posts: 676 Empowering

    TThank You, think I just saw JC in the House asking a question but missed most of that 😬