Green Paper Discussion (from 24th March, 2025)

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  • calflye
    calflye Online Community Member Posts: 97 Empowering

    @secretsquirrel1 Equality Act, Human Rights Treaty. The United Nations also frequently chime in with these changes

  • calflye
    calflye Online Community Member Posts: 97 Empowering

    @mawempathy New laws also need Royal Assent if I'm correct?

  • Santosha12
    Santosha12 Online Community Member Posts: 711 Empowering

    Watching Bbc2 politics live just showed some protestors next to Downing Street.

    She's on her way to the Commons now for PMQs at midday then statement at 1230.

    What has this country come to.

    I don't drink but got 2 cans of cider in cupboard for visitors, but as I don't have any I'm gonna stick them in the fridge 🤨🙄😪

  • mawempathy
    mawempathy Online Community Member Posts: 75 Empowering

    Yes, but that's just a guaranteed rubber stamping exercise.

  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 1,874 Pioneering

    Feeling decidedly queezy. Although quite naturally our views differ we much remain united here, in completing the consultation, and in other activities. Reading "The I", this comment troubled me because it enables the Government to divide, rule, and rob:

    "Gillian Oliver, 47, who has severe arthritis and mental health issues, receives PIP and universal credit. She told The i Paper she relies on these benefits to survive.

    She said that if any benefits are cut or taken away from people in genuine need like her, it will “destroy them” as she relies on this money to survive.

    “Any cuts to benefits announced in the Spring Statement will have a terrible impact and be brutal and absolutely destroy people like me,” she said.

    There are a lot of people on benefits who shouldn’t be as they are capable of working, so medical professionals should definitely be tougher on them.

    “But genuine people like me are going to suffer. We’re not going to be able to manage and food banks will be overwhelmed and there won’t be enough to go round.”

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 619 Trailblazing

    oh thank you 🙏 . Does this mean if/ when the law passes In parliament if it’s found to contravene the equality laws we can still take this to court or ECHR ?

  • evelyncourtney
    evelyncourtney Online Community Member Posts: 96 Empowering

    Sorry that’s completely my fault — I mean component not condition. I wasn’t fully awake yet when I wrote that 😅

    (I love your username, btw!)

  • Martinp
    Martinp Online Community Member Posts: 39 Empowering

    it’s all a big game to these vile people, Reeves smiling

  • anisty
    anisty Online Community Member Posts: 743 Trailblazing

    Discussing on radio 2 jeremy vine on right now

  • FluffyCatMeow
    FluffyCatMeow Online Community Member Posts: 94 Contributor

    thank you for clarifying ☺️
    and thank you, my cat rules my life so I figured it only right that my username is ruled by them, too 😹

  • mawempathy
    mawempathy Online Community Member Posts: 75 Empowering

    The ECHR cannot directly overturn UK law, but its judgements must be taken into account by UK courts.

    The main thing is to work out any legal challenges and fight in court before this can become law. This is what Scope and others are doing. So in reality, the stuff we're worrying about will have been challenged and tested in courts before it becomes law.

  • Santosha12
    Santosha12 Online Community Member Posts: 711 Empowering

    Love It! My shih tzus and yorkie rule mine and Santosha is the shih tzus' breed/lineage or whatever it's called 😅

  • Dianaf
    Dianaf Online Community Member Posts: 69 Empowering

    I truly believe starmer wants war. He is a war monger like Blair was. But starmer is actually worse.

  • William01
    William01 Online Community Member Posts: 24 Connected

    Reading there MORE welfare cuts coming in the spring statement today. Still no word about any legal challenges to these reforms yet, hoping it will happen soon. Have read that the reforms potentially violate human rights, in which case if they go down this route the option of going to the ECHR will be available

  • Martinp
    Martinp Online Community Member Posts: 39 Empowering

    Starmer has no idea what it’s like to have nothing and to just exist every day, no amount of poxy work coaches will change that. My spine is not suddenly going to straighten and my damaged nerves start working again, my permanently dislocated kneecaps won’t miraculously decide to start working, my osteoarthritis in every joint won’t get better. I can’t work. My future is homelessness, destitution and early death.

  • gamer1
    gamer1 Online Community Member Posts: 54 Empowering

    has Professor Snape made her statement yet?

  • Jane315STARX
    Jane315STARX Online Community Member Posts: 704 Empowering

    It is going through and I absolutely cannot believe it

  • Holly_Scope
    Holly_Scope Posts: 1,667 Scope Online Community Coordinator

    I believe the announcement is due around 12.30 @gamer1

  • SadOldPanda
    SadOldPanda Online Community Member Posts: 16 Empowering

    When they talk about disabled people getting a job show them this, there aren't enough jibs for all the able bodied job seekers without adding us lot into the mix.

    But perhaps, just perhaps if they take away all our money and make life unbearable then appropriate jobs will magically fly out of starmers privileged backside!

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 619 Trailblazing

    Thank you . What I don’t understand is in regards to other legislation the echr always seems to be able to use human rights laws. Such as the law stating criminals can be deported if serving a year or more in prison. Yet the echr usually seems to over turn this by using human rights laws such as a right to family etc. so does this mean that the same applies to us in that if this becomes law in parliament if it contravenes the equality law as a disabled group that the echr overrides parliament law . Hope that makes sense .