Green Paper Discussion (from 24th March, 2025)
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WhatThe. (I ask as you in my opinion have a lot of knowledge, a compliment based on what I've read on this thread)
What in your opinion is the end goal of Labour's plans? Will their Green and White papers get watered down and in the past did the Tories and the Labour government during the 2000s push for cuts and reforms and how were the outcomes?
I only started claiming incapacity orientated benefits in 2023, I held off for years and that made my situation far worse. So my historical knowledge of Government attacks on disability/incapacity benefits is slim.
I have studied the importance of the Human Rights act 1998 and Equalities Act 2010 when it comes to government's of the day going after disabled people so surely there's a line in the sand between proportionate reforms to cruel and disproportionate actions.
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I refuse to let any of these benefit reforms dominate my daily thoughts.
I distract myself by having time away from this thread.
I live in a beautiful place and the weather has been great and set to continue all week so I will be outdoors.
Our winters are too long and cold.
I am trying to keep optomistic that Liebour will be brought to account and that these reforms may not be as harsh as they would like.
As @Albus_Scope has mentioned although charities aren't speaking out, there is work going on behind the scenes on our behalf and I have faith in that.
I must admit that it would offer some reassurance if the charities were more vocal but we need to try and have faith that these proposals are very likely to be watered down.
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JasonRA, thank you very much!
Look up the 2011 amended ESA regs then read the Green Paper, White Paper, Committee report etc
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I agree with you , and the weather is gorgeous , glad you're enjoying time out . It's so clear still I can see the stars which I love .
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However, the review also identified a number of ways in which the WCA could be improved and the policy advanced. We agreed with the recommendations of this review and announced on 29 June 2010 that we would implement all of them . The Employment and Support Allowance (Amendment) Regulations 2011 implement these changes to the WCA.
2. Proposed changes and rationale
Ensuring that where Limited Capability for Work-Related Activity is demonstrated, Limited Capability for Work is also demonstrated
2.1 All sections of schedule 3 of the Employment and Support Allowance Regulations 2008 have a clear read across to schedule 2
This is when and where things began to go wrong…
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Could Scope get a Labour MP for Q&A on here. A lot of us probably have a lot of questions. The PM himself would be a start. Obviously they won't do it.
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You would need to ask Scope
I am not a moderator for them but a fellow disabled forum member.
Personally I do not trust a single word Liebour say so if Scope did get them to engage with this community I would rather watch paint dry than give my time of day to them.
As far as I am concerned they hate the disabled community and their ridiculous cruel welfare reforms have told us that loud and clear.
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Maybe worthwhile all of us filling this in??👍️
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Disability groups 'stepping back' over benefit cuts.
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Done ✔️
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just cannot comprehend how this is even remotely possible.
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@Katrina65 I feel defeated at times with everything that's going on at the moment. We really need our voices to be heard now more that ever. There's days I think all these proposals are a done deal and I just need to accept it.😔
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very evil - -first they targeted elderly who are just £1 over threshold for winter allowance (they could at least do different levels)
now they are targeting disabled… i know 100% fact i will not be able to keep my job with cuts…. hard enough paying for care and friends to stay overnight to keep me save and then i wont have money at all to survive.
heres hoping we can all fight against the chances as even my friend will loose pip under new rules and he needs a daily carer to wash and prepare food for him - without that he will stink of ….human waste… same as me - i would stink… we would be jobless! - DLA/PIP are to help disabled - many of which want to work or use it as care to be able to do any work.
all i know is if its just standard UC amounts (losing the UC health elements by 50% and losing PIP etc — i know know i wont live through it… and thats what scares me - even now i struggle month by month and my Dr referred me to a food bank because i ran out of money due to high bills.. i work part time as much as i can even though they said i shouldnt but i HATE being at home doing nothing so i try keep myself busy.. yet seems we are treated like 4th class citizens — and people on news articles just misunderstand as wellsorry this is more of a rant.. —-will be sending the links to fill them forms in to all my friends we MUST FIGHT THIS! - feel so betrayed..
the ONLY way i would support these cuts is if they had a 100% cure for EVERY SINGLE disability out there - there isnt… sadly.. and living with disabilities costs more to live
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today i spoke with my wifes CPN - community phychiatric nurse…
she said - no way is she able to work ….
at the moment she scores a 4pt for prepping a meal (total 13pts = enhanced rate) …. 👍️
she only scores 2pts for mixing with other people (should be 4) as she wont interact unless i'm with her or her CPN ….
we've never appealed her award because the higher rate was awarded but going forward we'll be looking to score at least two 4pts (belt and braces approach)
pip review isn't until july 2027 but she's drafting up a new care plan and will do another closer to july 2027 to emphasise here struggles in mixing with other people.
the fight back starts 💪
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