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Will the pip changes mainly affect those with learning disabilities ? My son goes to a place where he learns skills etc & they sent a msg today saying that pip could affect those with learning disabilities & also a link to ask local MP to help stop it ? Thank you.
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I’ve already emailed Jeremy 😂. No reply though
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The speaker is in starmers pocket
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wasn’t there some funny business at one point regarding the speaker and Starmer ? Can’t remember what it is exactly now
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We’re just interested to know why Corbyn put at the top of his letter that it is expected to certified as a money bill
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Yes starmer made him do something for him that wasn’t the normal procedure forgot what it was
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This will be the same as this I reckon
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That’s it . He’s so corrupt
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MW I hope you’re right . If say it gets voted down can he then pass it as a money bill ? I suspect they want this through asap so autumn they can scrap the two child limit and think alls forgotten.
If it does go through as a money bill what does it mean for us ? What’s the difference voting wise ? 🙏🤞0 -
It literally says here it's not a money bill because it's not got far enough through the process. It's like schrodinger bill at the moment. People saying it definitely is are wrong.
I've also repeatedly read though the bill and impact assessment published alongside it and the most yhat says is primary legislation. Yes a money bill is a type of primary legislation but so are other bills
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It may not look good on the speaker to go along with starmer again as I’m sure I remember called for him to quit last time
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Hi @dannistar, some people with learning disabilities may be affected by the proposed 4-point rule, but not everyone. It will depend on the severity of the individual's learning disability and how it affects them. Mencap have a page you might find useful:
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@Rosie_Scope it was mencap that I did the email to my local MP via, mencap sent the link to the place my son goes to most of the week to learn new life skills.
Thank you. I’m not sure how much more stress I can take.0 -
We all want reassurance Catherine, but stuff like that frightens people unnecessarily so maybe its best left to the experts and we should concentrate on facts alone.
You know what effect it's having on yourself, well you're passing that on to others at the same time, I know you don't mean to ever upset anyone but some panic very easily and we don't want people any more stressed right now.
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I think like everything they’re doing nothing is clear . Let’s face it if the system was honest and reliable most of us would already be getting 4? Points and classed as lifelong severe . It’s the fact that so much of it is about luck of who the assessor is and even which legal advisors help us . I’ve had bad representation and I’m possibly up for review so soon because of this . Make the system fair and we would mostly get what we deserve without all these assessments. Of course that’s not what they want though .
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I was talking about your posts on it being put through as a money bill Catherine and the means testing of pip, it just scares people.
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They tend to do that,I had a gp letter asking for a home assessment for esa and they wouldn't accept it,luckily I was seeing g a counsellor at the time who did me one and they accepted that
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Catherine I’ve emailed Jeremy again and if I get any reply I’ll post it 🤞❤️
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It’s very unfair as once you get a diagnosis of ME you had GET( now debunked) CBT and pacing therapy. After that there is nothing. No cure or treatment so I wouldn’t still have a specialist almost 15 years later , you get discharged
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Good old Jeremy
A GROUP of Independent MPs, including former Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn, have tabled an amendment to effectively scrap the UK Government's "disgusting" welfare bill.
The Universal Credit and Personal Independence Payment Bill, which is due to be debated by MPs next month, would change the eligibility criteria for the Personal Independence Payment (PIP) disability benefit in a bid to save £5 billion a year by the end of the decade.
If passed, the changes would make it harder for people with disabilities to claim benefits, and the UK Government's own analysis has found that the cuts would push 250,000 people into poverty, including 50,000 children.
On Thursday, the Independent Alliance – which consists of Corbyn, Shockat Adam, Adnan Hussain, Ayoub Khan, and Iqbal Mohamed – tabled an amendment to decline a second reading of the Universal Credit and Personal Independence Payment Bill, on the grounds that it "fails to provide a fair and compassionate approach to reforming disability benefits",
It adds that the bill “has not been designed to uphold the dignity, independence and security of people who rely on the welfare system.”
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Alongside the Independent Alliance, the amendment has also gained the support of Zarah Sultana MP, who was suspended from Keir Starmer’s party last July after voting to scrap the two-child benefit cap.
Commenting on the amendment, Corbyn said the UK Government's "attack on disabled people" is "disgusting and disgraceful".
He added: "MPs should think long and hard about the dreadful consequences these cuts will have.
“MPs must decide: did you become an MP so you could push thousands of disabled people into poverty?”
It comes amid reports that Labour MPs are set to be blacklisted for Government jobs if they fail to back the welfare cuts.
The National reported how rebels face the prospect of having the party whip suspended if they vote against the plans, while those considering abstaining have been warned they will not be considered for promotion.
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