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Morning folks. As far as we know the DWP utilise Government mandated guidelines for reviews and decision making. @Wibbles shared a link to this further up the page. If someone has heard otherwise via word of mouth, please treat it as that. Please can we all keep the conversation civil. Appreciate tensions are high right now, but want to avoid any upset between members.
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Thanks Apple , their idea that everyone knows the system needs to change is from the stand point that it’s too lenient when in fact I know people that should claim but are too scared to. Not to mention the ones who get turned down. Yes it needs changing, it’s needs to be fairer not any harsher
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Im really struggling with all this, I know even if the bill passes there's still a little hope before it's implemented with legal challenges and the like but just seeing it's going to be introduced to parliament today has got me facing that dark place that those of us with life long mental health struggles know all so well. I'm scared out my mind guys more so with having to deal with the DWP than potentially being destitute which says alot. Just the thought of them phoning me up has me hyperventilating
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We are considering the implications outlined in the green paper I got another response from human rights committee as I sent another email saying is there anything that can be done because this seems like a culling waiting for scope to share as has my name on it I think thier waiting to see what they propose
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That's right we have an army behind us the fight will still go on people will pull them up in court there's times I'm my life I never thought I'd get through and I did I'm not watching today but even without watching I know I will email my mp later saying this is outrageous flood them thier like a receptionist at a doctors surgery hospital job centre first port of call all MPs get it the ministers don't so keep flooding them keep them awake at night
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Thats the worst feeling I'm nit watching today they will just be sadistic and I will crash big hugs
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if anyone has the spoons, write to as many councillors of your constituency:
https://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/news/what-you-can-still-do-to-challenge-the-cuts2 -
sample draft to councillors:
Dear [name of councillor],I am writing to express my concern about the effects that the proposed Green Paper benefits cuts will have on local services and to ask you to discuss this with our constituency MP.
According to official estimates, 250,000 people will be pushed into poverty by the Green Paper cuts and 700,000 will be pushed into deeper poverty. There are no official figures on how many people might move into work due to Green paper changes, but the Resolution Foundation has estimated between 60,000 and 105,000 by the end of this parliament.
This means that, at the very least, it is likely that 845,000 people will be pushed into poverty or deeper poverty without being able to find work and some of these will be living in our constituency.
If our MP is considering voting in favour of the cuts, it’s important that they explain how the local authority will deal with the extra strain on its resources, including those listed below, that the cuts will bring.
Increased demand for adult social care
150,000 people are expected to lose their award of carer’s allowance because the person they care for has lost their PIP award. Many carers will have to seek full-time paid employment to make up for this massive loss of household income. This will lead to an increased demand for care provision from the local authority as well as access to day centres, lunch clubs and transport services. There is also likely to be an increased demand for aids and adaptations to people’s homes.
Increased demands on mental health services.
There is already evidence of claimants living with mental health issues experiencing a deterioration in their condition due to anxiety about the cuts. (DWP leaflets given to participants at in-person Green Paper consultation events included contact details for the Samaritans). If the PIP cuts go through, many claimants – even those with a 4 point descriptor - will experience an increase in anxiety just waiting for their turn to be assessed. For those who actually lose their PIP, and are obliged to attempt the extremely arduous reconsideration and appeals process to try to get it back, the effects may be dramatically worse. In addition, PIP often pays for counselling and other forms of therapy which help keep conditions manageable. So, there is likely to be increased pressure on local mental health services and an increase in costly emergency interventions.
Increased demands on other health services
The majority of people who will lose their PIP award will be older and live with physical health conditions such as arthritis, diabetes, heart conditions and respiratory conditions. With households losing up to £12,000 in annual income, there will be a considerable increase in people coping with poor nutrition, loss of special diet, cold and damp living conditions, social isolation, anxiety and more. All of these are likely to cause a deterioration in both physical and mental health conditions and an increase in demand for GP and other health services .
Increased demand for housing support
Many claimants depend on PIP to make up the shortfall in their rent. In addition, some claimants who lose their PIP will find themselves subject to the benefits cap and unable to afford their rent for that reason. It is extremely likely that an increased number of disabled people will face homelessness and require support from their local authority as a result of Green paper cuts.
Increased demand on schools
There is a wealth of evidence that children living in poverty are less likely to achieve at school. Breakfast clubs and free lunches may alleviate some of their hunger, but overcrowded and substandard housing, lack of online access and lack of money for additional activities can all hold children back and increase demands on teachers. The Green paper cuts are predicted to plunge at least 50,000 children into poverty and reduce their life chances. Some of those children will be in our constituency.
Increased demand for advice services
There will be a large increase in demand for advice on debt, housing and welfare benefits in particular. Local agencies may be overwhelmed and are likely to need increased funding to provide an effective service.
Given all the above – and there are probably other costs I have not considered - it seems certain that the Green Paper cuts will have a real and damaging effect on our local budget.
We hope that you will challenge our MP to give serious consideration to all these matters before they decide how to vote.
Best regards,
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I don’t know how to link but there are two reports on daily express . One with an MP not being able to answer a question on what people do if they lose pip etc on this morning with Richard madley. Another which could possibly have been written by Kendall. Reporting the millions of us ( me included) with hearing loss followed by the amount of pip we can claim for it . Getting desperate now
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I've never known a lovely one. They are trained to be sadistic and alot of them get the jobs because they already are sadistic.
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I’m not sure which are worse , the openly sadistic ( my first assessor) or the ones that try to lure you into a false sense of security ( second one )
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Starmer kendell reeves made big mistake acting like thier the judge and jury and believing what they say goes they are meant to represent the people and mps they have alienated everyone even the generals in the military putting gagging clause on them starmer thinks he can hide behind laws police but because he's so dodgy it's done in a devious way this will go to court I replied to human rights committee saying is anything going to get done because this is a mass culling she around about said they are accessing the situation did ask scope to share but obviously today's a big day I'm not watching they are not getting my head anymore bullies that's what they are bunch of bullies there will be so many reasons to take them to court so many people will be he's made biggest mistake not putting halt on it all for ego well we will show him ego I won't watch but will email my mp after saying nope not having it And more words than that I can't wait to see them back down don't fall for their tough demina it's all an act thier the ones who should be worried and if mps was smart they should evaluate the sinking ship I
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So that tells me you wouldn't be able to do MR madness no way will that happen
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I understand the fear is crippling and them doing this and the unknown it's torturous I m not watching today if you do remember it's all decided to keep us terrified unfortunately we are apart of a very sinister organisation I believe and I am scared I am but I believe no way will they get away with all they want if this went to court tomorrow would have all the backing of organisation charties the fightback has be hughe and still on going did you ever imagine in 11 weeks how much support alot of activists who knows lawyers so many people claiming PIP will not have this hold tight we will get there
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I just saw this headline from the I paper. This is aimed at killing the rebellion.
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Such threats shows desperation
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Such a bunch of no-hopers, evil set of !$**s
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Rayner is a hypocrite of the highest order
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There won’t be a Labour Party come next election anyway
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