Green Paper Related Discussions

I've just scanned the Bill. There is no mention of legacy CB-ESA or the scheme to merge it with JS-CB into a time-limited Insurance Benefit.

What to think?

1. Will this form the basis of a future Bill?
2. Will it just come about without parliamentary consideration?

@YogiBear @luvpink

The reference to "new claims" was written poorly in the Green Paper. We never found out whether those of us claiming legacy CB-ESA with nil UC entitlement will be included in the scheme.

This bill is to cut pip, cut LCWRA and tighten the eligibility for PIP.

This has nothing to do with the Green Paper/Consultation.

The Green Paper is going to be another thing for us to fight because they want to abolish the Work Capability Assessment and in turn Limited Capability for Work and Limited Capability for Work Related Activity.

Hi @Holly_Scope Today was a milestone on our journey together. Things become rocky at these points. There are so many changes proposed in the 2024-29 administration. Might the Mods consider having two threads?

1. The contents progress of the Bill and its progress through parliament
2. The consultative Green Paper and what happens after 30 June

I’d appreciate it if you explained what comments I made that were offensive, thanks

Hi MW, So really there’s nothing extra in the reforms for us . The severe conditions criteria is confusing. They say 200,00 will qualify so that must mean they’ve decided on certain conditions . Yet part of the criteria is if you have a condition which is lifelong ( incurable). . I looked it up and fibromyalgia and ME combined is almost 150,00. So I can only assume they won’t count even though they can’t be cured . They also mentioned assessments for pip lcwra in a way that makes me think it will again be down to the discretion of the assessors and not NHS guidelines. We have light touch awards already but my Dr said they don’t have anyone on them at the surgery .

From politics home . I’ve never heard of them so can’t verify if the information is correct

Again been listening to the sky news podcast just now , the two that do it are always very calm and very informed and have alot of contact inside the commons , the lady has said she's had so many discussions with MPs and it's true it's been reported over a hundred are very worried about these reforms and apparently Liz Kendall and Timms have been chairing alot of mini meetings with MPs to try and reassure them , they basically need around 80 MPs within the labour party to mount a serious challenge to get these reforms chucked out , the women hosting this podcast was saying 43 MPs had signed a written letter saying they cannot back them , she said in theory there is more than enough of a rebellion to lead a very significant challenge to these cuts but basically she said saying you are against the cuts and actually voting against the government on this are too totally different things , unfortunately....she said these cuts are going to be very hard to stop and almost certain to go through ...... Again I've been saying this from the very start , anyone you listen to who's got a bit about them and is good at Thier job have been saying this exact same same thing .... These reforms are going through , I was of the opinion that if they do there would be some amendments , but from what they are saying now there may not be 😩 the poxy 12 weeks extra could be enough to get it through ....what a bunch of cowards