Scope's reply to the governments planned concessions to the green paper.
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Unfortunately autistic people, people with MH conditions and with other invisible disabilities are always the butt of this kind of comment. Because instead of promoting inclusion and awareness, our media likes to peddle misinformation and overdiagnosis tropes that have no basis in fact.
Meanwhile Reform councillors have been costing the tax payer 10k per go each time one quits and forces a local by election. I forget how many it is now but it's more than ten. That's more money than any person gets on PIP for a whole year even on the very top level.
โฆSo maybe they'd like to stop spewing about what disabled people are legitimately doing and ask their councillors why they're capable of playing a game of popularity contest but not actually doing the job that comes with it?
The people who say "I'm fine so you should be too" don't understand disability :/. But there are also a lot of barriers in place for people who can/want to work because of the assumptions about capability and the ignorance from employers. Buckland report did a great job of exposing those for autistic people.
As an autistic person who is working, I'm really lucky in my team and with my manager - but I have seen and experienced first hand the things employers will do to avoid employing a disabled person.
And that's if you even get to the interview. Even some disability charities don't practice very accessible recruitment :(
And just because I work, it doesn't mean that's always easy or that I glide through it then have a wild party on my off days. I literally have a list on my fridge right now reminding me which bus stop I need to use on which day to catch the right bus to work for each shift - because my navigation means I get easily disorientated and I have legit ended up at the wrong one before now. :/ And reminding me to go to work tomorrow because I have swapped a day and so am not on my usual timesheet. That's before I even get to work, so yeah.2 -
I understand the reasoning about prioritising the substantial risk group for assessment, but would that help for those on C-ESA plus PIP? Because, if they're going to using the PIP assessment in future how would turning you down for ESA help them?
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I agree with @Passerby that they had zero intention of taking onboard anything individuals or disability groups/charities had to say.
I would go further and say Timms has already written his review and will ignore any and all input from experts, fellow mps, and disability organisations. He has already recognised people with life-long and/or degenerative conditions as being 'worthy' disabled and, as such, should not be further assessed. (Which is how it should always have been, imo.)
The rest of us (the vast majority) will be ground through his mill whenever our name comes up in his lottery. The vast majority of us are most likely to be considered 'unworthy' in order to balance their books, and get him a seat in the House of Lords.
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There has been absolutely no mention of 'substantial risk' or any change to it in the 'UC & Pip Bill,' nor it's amendments.
Substantial risk is considered when a claimant already has LCW but doesn't (otherwise) fit the criteria for LCWRA, but they, or others would be at 'substantial risk' if they weren't placed in the LCWRA group (if such a claimant was asked to engage in looking into work/actual employed).
Links about this & 'severe conditions' previously quoted from Benefits and Work were from 22 June just after the Bill was first published on 18 June.
The 'severe conditions' criteria (which already exists) is completely different; you need to meet one of the LCWRA descriptors & all 4 of these need to apply:
- the level of function will always meet LCWRA
- it's a lifelong condition with
- no realistic prospect of recovery of function
- it's an unambiguous condition (with a medical diagnosis)
The latest amendment to the UC & PIP Bill on 3 July has added that fluctuating conditions such as Parkinson's & multiple sclerosis will also apply. [There had been concern that the Bill said that a 'severe condition' had to 'constantly' apply]
I have no way of knowing if the statement B & W made about those with 'substantial risk' not meeting the criteria for 'severe conditions' is correct, for, as I say, 'substantial risk' isn't even mentioned in this Bill.
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I definitely agree this rewriting of pip already done see how they bring it forward even doing it by a money bill is aborant imagine can never be challenged that's it set in stone never had it this bad with tories I'm still hoping some kind of miracle happens but there all in it together t
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Surely that's unlawful and on Wednesday what will they be voting on the uc element its so confusing how is this ever allowed and no mention of under 22s and because a money bill will recieve less scrutiny terrible the more I understand I wish I didn't but what can we do have to deal with it I'm still emailing
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OK I think I sort of get it and reading severe criteria has to be constant with no signs of recovery? So we move over with lwcra when does that change to severe category when wca is abolished and pip becomes the one you have to pass so I can see where they will be alot of savings let's hope Wednesday goes in our favour because we lose alot of our rights with lwcra being abolished with constant worry do health in even more have stroke with it all
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OOh OK thankyou was worrying thankyou
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I'm really concerned about severe criteria no one is talking about it will they talk about it on 9th of July because that's harsh when you read into it
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OhhhhOhhhhhhh YES we are right behind You if I could do back flips I would come onnnn I hope the good labour mps join them is that possible .โฆ
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Yesssss listen id join membership if they needed funds if we all did memberships now tell how will this work pls Lord ๐ let's this be workable let's this happen
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Autism is a lifelong condition mixed with mental health can be very severe he can do one
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Starmer be sweating corbyn will take alot of Labour supporters especially over gaza now watch starmer come out with we are cutting ties with iseral To late you supplied arms and let the slaughter of thousands of innocent people whilst Corbyn was on the streets campaigning I'm going to email him too I'm happy
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Oh a writers cramp who do they think we are Jessica lange think that's how you spell her name I'm going to get my doctor to write a letter explaining if I turn my head to quick it might fall off do you think I get away with it ! Gosh I'm delirious with it all
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Remember what I was saying , people on ESA / lcwra will be reassessed on the WCA until it's abolishment in 2028 / 2029 , that will be the start of the tax year April 2028 .... That will be for new claims firstly and then a gradual transition for existing claimants .... Earliest start back end of 2029 .... And then there's a very good chance you won't be one of the first , you could be looking at the end of 2030 going into 2031 .... I mean there will be another government in by then , who knows what will happen .... You can't be worrying yourself sick for a minimum of 4 and a half years .... Just concentrate on your next reassessment and go from there
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Your so right I'm going to stop reading all articles takes over thankyou so much
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I want to apologise for all screen shots I'm not keeping tabs on how many I send I'm going to calm down and be more aware of what I'm putting out I respect everyone to much to be upsetting or worrying people
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There's nothing to apologise for @Catherine21 thank you for sharing so much information that people may have missed. ๐
In other news, I've updated the original post with some new links. It's worth everyone checking them out. ๐
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