Scope's reply to the governments planned concessions to the green paper.
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If she gets enough to vote our way I think it kills the bill. Shame turncoat hellier didn’t keep the amendment instead of siding with Starmer.
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Mrs BB
What I was trying to say was there are MILLIONS of elderly and disabled people in the UK, and they make up at least a 3rd of the UK population, which is rapidly ageing too.
Hence there will be ever more disabled and elderly people, voters, likely to vote against any govt that tries to cut their pensions, fuel allowances and disability benefits.
It is V HOT and its also affected my concentration, remember to drink plenty of water and in general look after yourselves folks, and support each other.
Here's a letter I have written to Leeds Welfare Rights:
Milan Ghosh re UC Migration and PIP DP SDP ESA which benefits will I lose, and gain?
My UC form was done with help from staff at Seacroft Jobcentre - I could not have done it alone.It took over 2 hours, and unfortunately afterwards the intense anxiety provoked a suicide attempt. I still do not now which benefits I will lose.
I signed the form under psychological duress: I had to sign the form to retain some benefits, but resented having to sign saying I understood I would lose benefits. I think such pressure is against the right to life, duty of care and other rights to informed choices and at least 5 other basic rights.I will be consulting 9 solicitors pro bono charity etc. about these rights - will they stand up in court in M Ghosh v govt.
Will I lose ESA if so that just over 121 quid a week I'll lose, and with inflation still high I will be definitely be in poverty.
Will I lose my CTB DP SDP
I'm very worried. You advice is invaluable, and thanks for it many times in the past indeed.
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We may yet still win this
We certainly deserve to - even more MPs are disgusted even with Starmers 'concessions'.
And we did the hard graft of campaigning, writing to MPs, the media going on TV radio etc, sharing it, especially the mass lobby of parliament.
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Dear Catherine21, and all others in this discussion forum of SCOPEs, we deserve love, self respect, respect by society, non stigma WE ARE HUMAN BEINGS WHO DESERVE FAR BETTER, AND WHEN WE RECEIVE COMPASSION TO SHARE AND BE GRATEFUL. We are not bad evil or wicked, we have disabilities. We did not ask for this disablist oppression, and stigma, and do NOT deserve it,. It is NOT our fault.
I was just moved to tears by Catherines thank you to me for my kindness, and others have shown great kindness, legal info, advice support to me, and others. That is what it IS all about comradeship we are stronger than we know, and stronger united, and hatred is worth nowt. We can transform any frustration or ill-will towards the govt into cogent reasoning, legal actions, lobbying. It is totally understandable we feel hurt traumatised, angry bitter even enraged but anger makes us bad company and destroys our happiness.
I shall NEVER forget the loyalty comradeship support encouragement challenges of al the wonderful courageous deeply courageous and sensitive nurturing disabled people on this forum. I am eternally in your debt, and love is its own reward, hatred is its own punishment on the perpetrator. Gratitude peace of mind and courage are the rewards for compassion.
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I think meg the peg had a personal gripe with starmer he was probley ignoring her full stop ! So she made her presence known otherwise if she really had claimants at heart she wouldn't have turned so quick few days later on morning telly oh I'm quiet happy now I emailed her and said what was that all about I said another labour mp putting us on a emotional rollercoaster I said we are people you know !
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I have spent hours many days over 5 months sitting at this PC desk, and with 8 MSK conditions its v painful, so I alternate it with organic wildlife gardening.
I'm glad to hear Catherine has given herself a break by clipping the hedge too, as endorphins kick in when exercising, so easing or even ending physical and mental pains.
We have coping strategies, and healing insights to apply. And I'm sure many on this forum use them; please share them a bit more to reduce the distress and suffering, as I keep saying we need to keep healing ourselves day and night, and look after ourselves.
I have suffered the internalised stigmas in ma head of disabilism and mentalism, and it turned to self hatred and suicide attempts.
I am slowly learning to turn even the total despair of internalised stigmas resulting in self hatred into the opposite self esteem. To ignore the self-hatred and dissolve it with insights. I am saying this deliberately to try to help others who have suffered deep and multiple traumas like myself, to transform even the deepest distresses into happiness.
We al suffer, when suffering meets self-compassion, and or other-compassion there is healing.
We are ALL with you Catherine, and with each other!
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I repeat yogibear's comment: it is worth repeating:
I think any MP that votes for this bill today will be seeking alternative employment when it comes to the next GE.
Thank you so much yogibear.
PS
I love cartoons daft humour playfulness - it has kept me alive - along with various forms of observed absurdity.
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Having listened to Hillier's troop-rallying rhetoric there 🙄, I expect to see her on the front bench sooner than later. Who knows she it may even be the Hillier Review rather than the Timms' Review.
I can only imagine she's been offered something special to perform such a volte-face within mere hours.
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I cannot put it into better words.
Thank you MW123
The long march to freedom.
The impossible always seems impossible until it is done.
activism is the antidote to despair.
Life is unfair, we need to keep keeping on.
And
WE CAN WIN YES WE CAN.
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I definitely had the same thoughts about some kind of promotion coming for her, if she helps get the bill over the line. The concessions are weak, temporary, and discriminatory against future applicants. The fact she's now dancing around urging her colleagues to bank what they've won is incredible.
It's like going on a game show where the top prize is £1million, and accepting the first offer of £100 to walk away - despite making a great start. They could easily push for more concessions, better concessions, if they stuck together. The government have even been briefing they don't rule it out. Crazy.
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Aww happy you are a little worry free today ☺️really is no point is there lol worrying takes up valuable energy that I dont have at the mo. Catherine, I am picturing you trying to cut the hedge blinded by sweat 😁 its so blooming muggy today. Its really not helping the thrush in my mouth and throat, caused by mega doses of Antibiotics for weeks, no amount of slavering my tongue with natural yogurt or swilling Nystatin baby liquid round my gob is doing a thing 🤣😊
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OOh God that must be awful for you I'm so sorry for you I really hope passes soon I hate anything to do with nose ears mouth sending healing vibes 🙏 I say I feel calm now later I probley be roaring
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Catherine 21 has expressed deep despair depression anxiety, distress in a word.
And
Also great strength, legal research shared strategies, given political updates, media articles, etc..
What I am saying is like me, she is vulnerable, 'weak' and strong.
Its not one or the other.
We are all paradoxical messes-in-progress, and that's OK.
We are all complex, rich in emotions and in many other ways.
Embrace, befriend and love your demons, try to hear what the pain is trying to tell you.
Jalaladin Rumi said
'The healing is the pain'
and
'You are not the drop in the ocean, you are the ocean in a drop.'
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We must all thank mps who are fighting for us as they are under such pressure to conform and this week we must all write and remind the ones voting for it four years will fly and we will have the power and they will feel how we feel now scared for the future
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What time does it finish no word yet 🤔
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I remember reading someone say they’re voting for the bill as they’ve saved their constituents. In other words their voters , not concerned with future disabled people. I could be wrong but it may of been Meg , though I can’t be sure. Either way that’s why they fought for us only , cos we threatened their seats . Maybe they didn’t feel a backlash from non disabled people.
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It's so true love the sayings
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Like weird the way she did it such a big big statement to accept just existing claimants yh till 2028 !! Alot of people said on here she's been offered something promotion maybe I heard she's very career driven I'd be embarrassed but I don't think they feel normal feelings have you heard anything I haven't been watching
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Thier testing the waters just scrap it !!! She's promised insurance companies kendell had private meetings with them
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