Boris Johnson televised Coronavirus update (04/01/2021)

Ross_Alumni
Ross_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 7,611 Championing
edited January 2021 in Coffee lounge

Any new measures would tackle the rise in cases, "protect the NHS and save lives", Downing Street said.

It comes as Scotland announced a legal requirement to stay at home from midnight, with schools to be closed.

The House of Commons will also be recalled, allowing MPs to vote on any new measures on Wednesday.

Mr Johnson will set out plans for England as the UK's devolved nations have the power to set their own coronavirus regulations.

Alongside Scotland, both Wales and Northern Ireland have also implemented national restrictions.

The PM earlier said there was "no question" the government would announce stricter measures to prevent the spread of coronavirus.

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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 1,782 Connected
    If they put South Yorkshire in Tier 4 BoJo the Clown can sod right off.

  • Ami2301
    Ami2301 Community member Posts: 7,879 Championing
    I hope Boris implements the same as Scotland. 
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 1,782 Connected
    No, no and did I mention, no?! No Tier 4 down here in South Yorkshire, for the love of all that is Holy, PLEASE!

  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 61,736 Championing
    Ami2301 said:
    I hope Boris implements the same as Scotland. 

    Scotland have already announced their lockdown and all schools are to remain closed. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-55531069

  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 61,736 Championing
    edited January 2021
    MrAllen1976 said:
    No, no and did I mention, no?! No Tier 4 down here in South Yorkshire, for the love of all that is Holy, PLEASE!


    I wouldn't hold out any hopes of that. I can see a full lockdown from midnight tonight for the whole of England.
  • Ami2301
    Ami2301 Community member Posts: 7,879 Championing
    He needs to do the right thing, once and for all.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 1,782 Connected
    Ami2301 said:
    He needs to do the right thing, once and for all.
    Yeah, resign!

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 1,782 Connected
    woodbine said:
    The only thing that will work now in the short and medium term is a total lockdown across England not much point in anything else with Scotland and Wales going ahead.
    Any changes won't come into force until midnight on Wednesday as he has re-called parliament so they I assume can have a vote on new measures.
    The big problem is that the NHS is almost at breaking point and we are about to see an upsurge in new cases following the relaxation of the rules at Christmas and we have to assume that too many people did their own thing at new year as well.
    And that's what annoys me, I know they reduced the Christmas rule relaxation to just Christmas Day from 5 days, but even that was a bad idea IMO.

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 1,782 Connected
    woodbine said:
    MrAllen1976 said:
    woodbine said:
    The only thing that will work now in the short and medium term is a total lockdown across England not much point in anything else with Scotland and Wales going ahead.
    Any changes won't come into force until midnight on Wednesday as he has re-called parliament so they I assume can have a vote on new measures.
    The big problem is that the NHS is almost at breaking point and we are about to see an upsurge in new cases following the relaxation of the rules at Christmas and we have to assume that too many people did their own thing at new year as well.
    And that's what annoys me, I know they reduced the Christmas rule relaxation to just Christmas Day from 5 days, but even that was a bad idea IMO.

    The problem they had was that they knew if they didn't relax the rules people would still want to see their families on xmas day, we didn't did you ?
    My Uncle and his partner came to us for the Christmas meal and stayed till late evening.

    Under normal circumstances we'd have gone to them for the evening meal on Boxing Day but we couldn't.

  • Ami2301
    Ami2301 Community member Posts: 7,879 Championing
    MrAllen1976 said:
    Ami2301 said:
    He needs to do the right thing, once and for all.
    Yeah, resign!

    While I don't agree with some of his actions, he needs to do the right thing by putting the people's health first. If he resigned, right now in the midst of a global pandemic, how would that help? 

    I don't understand why there is such an issue with the concept of going into another lockdown, a national one. Surely we need to look at the bigger picture, that our health comes first.

    Boris is doing his best to please everyone, which is ultimately impossible.
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 61,736 Championing
    edited January 2021
    Just heard on the BBC news that a new lockdown will be announced tonight, with Boris announcing the full rules.

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 1,782 Connected
    Ami2301 said:
    MrAllen1976 said:
    Ami2301 said:
    He needs to do the right thing, once and for all.
    Yeah, resign!

    While I don't agree with some of his actions, he needs to do the right thing by putting the people's health first. If he resigned, right now in the midst of a global pandemic, how would that help? 

    I don't understand why there is such an issue with the concept of going into another lockdown, a national one. Surely we need to look at the bigger picture, that our health comes first.

    Boris is doing his best to please everyone, which is ultimately impossible.
    I don't really do Politics, but I just think Boris has been a poor PM who made even Theresa May look good.

    That Kier Starmer bloke's not much but I reckon even he'd be a better PM at the moment.


  • chiarieds
    chiarieds Community member Posts: 16,656 Championing
    I completely agree with a total lockdown for England. I wouldn't like to be in any PM's shoes; can only say whomever it might have been, they would have needed to be guided by the scientists. This isn't a time for party politics, rather do what's best for the country.....the people, the NHS & key workers, & stop this awful loss of life.
  • RAwarrior
    RAwarrior Community member Posts: 425 Pioneering
    Hi @Ross_Scope,

    I won’t be surprised if another national lockdown is announced because as I have said many times, there are too many people who ignore the rules. Customers and staff in independent shops don’t wear face coverings or social distance. Patients in the outpatients departments in hospital lower their masks under their nose or chin as soon as they get inside. I no longer go to the local shops because it’s not safe because the owners care more about money than the safety of their customers. 
  • RAwarrior
    RAwarrior Community member Posts: 425 Pioneering
    I have sat in traffic in my car and seen so many people just walk into a shop with no face covering. 

    I have gone to get petrol and most of the customers don’t wear a mask when they go into the shop part to pay. I seen employees in Tesco, BP and Esso petrol stations in the shop part not wearing a face covering. 
  • chiarieds
    chiarieds Community member Posts: 16,656 Championing
    My son works in an independent food retailer, & has been wearing a mask for quite some time at work. A long shift is definitely difficult, but he only takes it off when he leaves the shop floor to do office work.
    I do appreciate what you're saying @RAwarrior & wish more people would have followed the most sensible rules. I feel this lockdown was inevitable, due to many people not following the guidelines, unfortunately.
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 61,736 Championing
    Support bubbles and childcare bubbles can continue.
  • RAwarrior
    RAwarrior Community member Posts: 425 Pioneering
    Hi @ woodbine,

    Shop staff are required by law to wear a mask on the shop floor. 

    I don’t read the Daily Mail and I am speaking about what I have actually experienced.

    I have seen lots of people not wearing any face covering in the local shops, which includes the shop owners and the staff which is why I stopped going to the local shops. 

    I have regular hospital treatment and I have seen patients and staff not wearing a face covering or wearing it under their nose or chin. 

    I had a blood test a couple of weeks ago and the phlebotomist was really scared because the amount of patients not wearing a face covering properly.
    I ended up standing away from people because patients were not social distancing and had lowered their face coverings.

    I could quote you a long list of places where I have seen people not wearing a face covering. I have a weakened immune system so I am really scared about getting Covid.

    You have been fortunate in your area that people follow the rules but I cannot say the same from what I have actually seen which is why I do all my shopping online.  
  • RAwarrior
    RAwarrior Community member Posts: 425 Pioneering
    Hi @chiarieds,

    I am not surprised about the national lockdown at all because I have seen so many people completely ignoring the rules.

    I have seen very large groups consisting of multiple households when I have visited my squirrel friends. Although they are outside, the people do not social distance and they are not supposed to mix but they do. 

    I stopped going to non essential shops before the March lockdown and I haven’t been to a local shop for months after seeing basically 8 out of 10 people not wearing a face covering along with the staff. 

    As I have said many times before, Covid 19 is a real worry for me and it really upsets me when I see people not caring about the fact that their actions could lead to me going to Intensive Care.  
  • RAwarrior
    RAwarrior Community member Posts: 425 Pioneering
    Any comments I make come from my personal experience and not from The Daily Mail!

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