Pip assessment report

Alex_Alumni

Lovely news @jamieleehill92 just adding my best wishes  

Hang in there @Ollyoyster fingers crossed you'll know more soon!

jamieleehill92

@Teddybear12 @Alex_Scope thank you

jamieleehill92

@Ollyoyster any luck?

Ollyoyster

No I rang up and she read the desion letter,, no awad, so I'm watin for letter and then do an Mr 😏,,, 

jamieleehill92

@Ollyoyster oh dear, hopefully the MR goes well for you. Best of luck 

Ollyoyster

@jamieleehill92 thank you 😉,,, had exactly same points as you,, you are lucky 😁🍀,,, 

jamieleehill92

@Ollyoyster yeah that's what I don't understand. I don't think they just go by the points I think they look at the medical report aswell. But I havent received my actual award letter yet so I'm not sure on what they scored me tbh

poppy123456

jamieleehill92 said:

@Ollyoyster yeah that's what I don't understand. I don't think they just go by the points I think they look at the medical report aswell. But I havent received my actual award letter yet so I'm not sure on what they scored me tbh

They are supposed to look at everything you sent, as well as the PIP2 form and the assessment report before making a decision. However, they do mostly go with the report, if they go against it, it's rare.

Ollyoyster

I sent x rays and list of medication, do u think I should get a letter off doctor to support Mr? 

Ollyoyster

Ie if the doctor would confirm in writing that there is no way once my knee buckles I can physically walk more than 20 metres?   It takes a day to get over a buckle,  hyper mobility with stage 4 osteoarthritis, so when my knee buckled the wrong way the bone rubs bone and the pain is off the scale 😩 too young for new knee apparently 😣,, can't afford private. , thanks for advice, this site really helps 🤗

calcotti

Ollyoyster said:

I sent x rays and list of medication, do u think I should get a letter off doctor to support Mr? 

GP letters are usually not useful, they don’t see how you cook or how you manage getting into the bath etc. They are also likely to charge you for them. They will give you a copy of your Summary Care Record if you request it.

Remember however PIP is about the difficulties you have, not what you have been diagnosed with.

poppy123456

Ollyoyster said:

I sent x rays and list of medication, do u think I should get a letter off doctor to support Mr? 

X rays and letters from a doctor aren't the best evidence to send. A doctor doesn't spend any time with you to know exactly how your conditions affect you. They don't see you wash/dress/undress/walking etc etc.

Xrays don't tell them anything about your conditions either.

What will help is a couple of real world incidents of exactly what happened the last time you attempted each descirptor that applies to you.

Include detailed information such as where you were, what exactly happened, did anyone see it and what the consequences were. You should aim for at least half an A4 side of paper per descriptor that applies to you.

Some also find it useful to send letters from people that know you well and know how your conditions affect you. I've never personally done this myself, as i usually stick with those real world examples.

Ollyoyster

Yes good points,  tbf doc is really really good,  but I take your points.  I was awarded 2 for food 2 for bathing, but as advised by yourself bed does not count for dressing,, but my argument is b4 I was bad I never used a bed or stool to get dressed, now I have to, as I tried to explain if I were on one foot putting pants on and my knee were to buckle, I would fall on my face!!  Not safe,, so I'm stuck in a rock and hard place. I have bendy days as I call them about 4 to 5 times a week, once it go's backwards after the pain subsides it then swells and I walk like I'm set in concrete. I had 3 kids no pain relief, and I know I have high pain threshold, but believe me when the bone rubs bone the pain is off the scale,, it's hard trying to explain. I get really fed up, I don't and can't do things I used to, with kids, example couldn't go firework display last night because it involved too much walking,, I just feel guilty on my kids,  sorry for waffling,, I appreciate there are others a lot worse than me,, sorry for waffle x

L_Volunteer

It sounds really positive that doc is really really good @Ollyoyster. Though, it sounds really difficult for you that you feel stuck in a rock and hard place.

Would anything, in particular, help things to feel more manageable for you at the moment? Please don't hesitate to reach out to us if we can do anything to support you 

Welshlad90

So I've had my assessor report and she is recommended pip continues as standard daily and mobility and next review 5 years time. Firstly how likely is it the DM will agree with assessor? 

Secondly 2 things she put on the social and occupational history don't match to the boxes she has ticked for the descriptors in those categorys as in I should receive more points for 2 of the categorys. Can I challenge this if there is 2 different versions of events that she has put in the occupational history to what boxes she has actually ticked?

Can anyone please help and advise 

poppy123456

Mostly they go with the report but it has been known for them to go against it.

The social and occupational history do not always match the chosen descriptor because that is related to what you said and what was written in the form. 

You need to look at the justification for why that descriptor was chosen, which you can find underneath each activity. The justification will be their opinion based on everything you wrote in the form, what you said during the assessment and any additional information you sent. 

You will need to wait for the decision before you can request the MR. However, whether it’s possible to score more points needed for any award will totally depend on how your conditions affect you. 

Welshlad90

poppy123456 said:

Mostly they go with the report but it has been known for them to go against it.

The social and occupational history do not always match the chosen descriptor because that is related to what you said and what was written in the form. 

You need to look at the justification for why that descriptor was chosen, which you can find underneath each activity. The justification will be their opinion based on everything you wrote in the form, what you said during the assessment and any additional information you sent. 

You will need to wait for the decision before you can request the MR. However, whether it’s possible to score more points needed for any award will totally depend on how your conditions affect you. 

Thanks poppy for your reply, so with regards to if I feel the points ticked to what the assessor said in the occupational history was different is it worth appealing? Or am I then at risk of them changing the decision for the worse?

poppy123456

I can't advise if it's worth because I don't know anything about your health conditions or how they affect you. It will only be worth you appealing if it's possible to score more points for a higher award and not everyone can score more points. 

If they go with the report and you request the MR the most likely outcome will be the decision remains the same. There's more chance at Tribunal stage. 

You really should get some expert advice once you receive the decision to check it's possible to score more points needed for a higher award.