The Green Paper Discussion (the document link is here too!)
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I've recently had a 10 year award and due to go to pension credit next year, so I appear to be unaffected by the changes. However the 4 point is going to make a huge difference to who qualifies…. I was only 1 point short of higher rate for daily living I got 11 points but under new rules I wouldn't get anything !! I do feel for all those who will loose over £300 a month at there next review
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I found this really helpful. Thanks for sharing.
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Is it me or didn't the Tories want to link PIP and LCWRA at some point into a "health element"?
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I must admit it doesn’t make sense to me . Only the very disabled will be eligible for pip but they won’t need to be reassessed, but then it says reassessments more frequently.
im on legacy esa so not sure how it affects me . Will I go over as planned though I’ve no letter yet ? If I lose pip which all depends on what assessor I get not my conditions will I have to work ?1 -
As var as I'm aware they are the same thing. CB former known as is now New Style ESA
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I’m on New Style ESA in the support group and currently those in the support group have no end date to receiving the benefit as you are deemed not fit to work ever (I think that’s right?).
so not sure what today’s announcement means for those in the new style ESA support group.4 -
I just read on the paper that there looking at raising the age at which people can claim Personal Independence Payment.
I'm guessing it will be 22 maybe to match the age someone can claim the health element of UC they're planning to change to.
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So if I lose LCWRA am I supposed to try and apply for PIP which will be even harder than ever to be eligible?
I've never applied for PIP, I don't even know if I should have previously, I was scared to apply for anything else when I was awarded LCWRA.
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I'm hopeful they will at least leave the existing descriptors alone. These changes are brutal enough for many people.
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I just checked mine and I didn't get 4 points on any one descriptor.
I'm worried sick now as I'm due for a reasment August next year.
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I'm wondered the same thing. I'm on that esa as well. I assume it'll be OK to 2028 which i think is the new merger year
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but I thought lcwra was based on pip assessment in future. Blimey I can’t understand this mess
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That's so bad. In theory, the government could increase the DLA age limit to compensate.
In practise, this won't happen and they'll condemn tens of thousands more young, disabled people to the "scrapheap" they claim to hate so much.
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Anyone with 4 points on any daily living category will keep PIP.
The standard rate of UC is going up and no one on LCWRA before April 2026 is going to lose money as that rise will compensate for the freezing of the 2025 LCWRA rate. New awards after that will be at a lower rate however.
Standard UC is supposed to rise to £775 by 2029 which is 👍 It has been shameful the way people were given less than they could possibly live on.
I have no problem with the UC changes and will not be affected by the PIP changes either as I and son both have daily living elements of 4 points but I can see it will be a problem for lots of people. But they do talk a lot about making other support available.
To be honest I doubt this is going to save any money but it should make the whole system better. I think it will cost as much as it saves. I particularly like the talk about restoring trust and changing the culture of assessments to not being so adversarial and not reassessing once a severe need has been identified.
I am so glad it is Labour rather than the Tories who have put this forward. It could have been so much worse!!
I think the PIP criteria are where efforts to change it will be targeted and hopefully people can be protected that way. But effort is needed to make sure they deliver on the personalised support bits too.
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Thanks, this has been very helpful
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I just sent off my review beginning of Feb :/
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Same here. I don't know anyone who scores 4 points in a single discriptor everyone usually gets 2 points and then it's added up at the end. This means that most people will lose daily living completely which is barbaric and must be challenged.
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what about esa legacy as I’m still on that and am yet to receive a migration letter . Do you know if I’ll get protection ?
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