The Green Paper Discussion (the document link is here too!)
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Anyone who has LCWRA now will have transitional protection until 2028 when the WCA gets scrapped and maybe even after that so don't worry for the moment.
I know it's hard not to worry but I know from experience that it just makes things harder. Most of the things we worry about don't end up happening the way we imagine.
There are good people fighting on our side. And it would have been much worse if the previous government had done it. I don't think it is insensitive to say that. I think what is insensitive is to encourage people to worry needlessly the way some of the media does.
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https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1000745/#Comment_1000745
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Thank you for posting that . does this mean I need to migrate over from esa before next April ? Will I go straight over to lcwra as previously thought without assessment ? And is lcwra going or staying, will work be voluntary? It’s so confusing.
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so I’ll get a lower rate as I’m on legacy esa and haven’t migrated over even though I would of got TP
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Same here ironside, I score 4pts in 2 questions on my last assessment. Things have got worse for me but my main concern is reassessment...and having an assessor who may award lower points .
I sincerely hope that doesn't happen.
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If people think Current LCWRA will only be frozen until 2029-2030, your going to be disappointed big time. There will be NO increase until the lower LCWRA catches up and that could be 10 years from now.
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I’m still on esa legacy and expected TP is that now scrapped as I’ve nit migrated already ?
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please does anyone know what will happen to the mobility part of pip as I get enhanced mobility but standard daily living, will I lose the mobility part if I don’t get 4 points in a single daily living category, it’s so complicated
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Sending you a virtual hug for what it's worth.
I'm also the same, 2s and 3s. Hearing her statement I think we must all be stronger (if we can). Things might change as it goes through - let's be positive.
I've also been struggling with this but I now feel angry (I don't like anger) so things need to be done 🙂1 -
I think it is independent of ESA/UC status, they seem to be basing it on WCA status. I am not 100% on this, but I expect thats the probability.
If migration goes to plan, then I expect almost everyone to be on UC before April 2026, with only hard cases left over.
Also since they can probably turn WCAs back on without a legislation change, and have already said no consultation, I expect that to be the first change and to happen quite soon.1 -
Got this from
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/benefits-pip-universal-credit-disability-welfare-labour-cuts-b2717246.html?callback=in&code=ODMZYJLLNTETNMVLZS0ZYTK3LWFMMMETMZJLYTZIZWE0ZDY2&state=5599291b4c3a4494933db3142ddb224c
New benefit ‘Unemployment Insurance’“Labour will also introduce a new benefit called ‘Unemployment Insurance’ through the reform of contributory working-age benefits. It will replace Jobseeker’s Allowance and ESA (both of which were already being replaced by UC) with a new single entitlement”
so this states “both of which were already being replaced by UC”… NS ESA has never been a benefit replaced by UC so does this literally mean the old CB ESA?2 -
I posted a summary now.
https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1000745/#Comment_1000745
They will be initially left alone with the exemption of the 4 point requirement, but they are to come later as a second phase after the stuff becomes live.0 -
@Ray212 Absolutely. I reckon that's how they're going to target it. She very loudly said that the mobility element will not be affected (not verbatim, but I noted that!)
The Government has banged on about their plans for people to live independently. That is what we are trying to do; but now, many of us will lose our daily help for personal care under the new rules.4 -
I just checked mine as well and I scored 4 on a couple of descriptors. My current PIP Award is until 2027.
I heard they reassess you a year before that.
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Thank you. I’m sorry you’re in a similar position. I hope tomorrow to be angry and to fight, today I’m really sad and really scared. It makes me feel both worthless and helpless.
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do you think I’d get the lower amount or the higher amount that I would of done with TP
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When they say WCA reassessments restarting does that include LCWRA? I'm worried sick about a reasessessment.
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I hope we dont get too much of a "im alright jack" on here. The 4 point requirement is going to be devastating for those affected.
Also descriptor changes are still planned, but they are going to be a later phase, not in the first round of changes.
https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1000745/#Comment_100074513 -
I’m only receive PIP, higher rate for both card and mobility. I was awarded this in 2022 and because of my age I think I was given a 10 year award with a light touch review at the 10 year mark.
Am I correct in thinking I should be ok up until that light touch review? If so I guess everyone will need a F2F assessment, rather than a light touch review because the descriptors will have changed? Will light touch reviews be abolished?
I didn’t get 4 points on any care component at the time but I would now (as it currently stands) as I smashed my humerus when I tripped on a wonky kerb stone and can’t wash or dress my upper body without help. I haven’t advised DWP about this because I can’t face the thought of having to be reassessed at this point in time. I’m on the waiting list for a shoulder replacement but the consultant has said it’s unlikely I’ll get full movement back even after the op so the difficulties I have now will probably remain, I just won’t get the pain (hopefully).
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Yes it will include LCWRA, that will be their main motivation as they will want reassessments to downgrade people. Also they specifically stated to be eligible for keeping the health topup without PIP daily living, one more WCA after April 2026 that awards LCWRA is required.
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