The Green Paper Discussion (the document link is here too!)

Everyone on LCWRA will still get the higher basic rate from next year but, I still cant understand WHY they have moved alot of people off IR ESA to UC to give them this higher rate, which is now being frozen.

Afraid from the green paper just read this about ESA(CB) Support Group and doesn't read very well

"54. Alongside levelling up the rate, this change would end the indefinite entitlement to contributory ESA for those assessed as having limited capability for work-related activity (for new people claiming). Those unemployed after the time-limited period would be able to claim UC depending on their personal circumstances. We believe this reform would align with the removal of the WCA by offering a route to financial support for those with temporary and short-term health conditions, including for those who may not be entitled to PIP and therefore not entitled to the health element of UC"

So looks like scrapping WCA in 2028 and also this new limited time cb work insurance starts replacing jsa(cb) and esa(cb). So to get anything non means tested for sickness you get nothing after the limited time.

can only hope that this will be watered down and if I’m reassessed under LCWRA that I’ll stay in the same group but I’ve tried applying PIP and I wasn’t accepted so god knows what’ll happen in a couple of years. If I’m forced to interact with the job centre and even if I’m reassessed I will have no choice but to indulge in dangerous behaviours which puts me at risk to cope. Im hoping that most of this won’t go through if I’m honest cos it will cause me serious harm and if I can I’m going to put that on the consultation, not like they will care

Ye, just read this myself.

The TP is only given on managed migrations (when they send you the letter), if you would have no TP because UC is more than what you currently get, then you could initiate your own migration with no financial loss and the higher award, although I am not sure if there is any downsides in doing this. Maybe someone like Kimmy87 or poppy knows the answer with more certainty.

That was mean to read I didn't get more that 2 points on any daily living

for those of us in LCWRA of UC, did she say our LCWRA element won’t be reduced until next April or am I misunderstanding? so we will keep getting the LCWRA amount + the basic rate for the rest of the year, at least?

(sorry if that’s a silly question but I’m so confused and am trying to sort out my budget for next few months)

Possibly, as far as I know they could turn them back on at a flick of a switch so they may have even announced after they had resumed. However WCAs were not stopped completely, it was just the automatic WCAs, they could still be triggered manually by staff.

I'm caught in two minds reading the responses here, some are ok with things, some are desperate.

I don't know anyone who is going to employ someone who has CPTSD and Rage orientated disorders, that was why I was let go of my last job.

Only in Britain where it's a crime to be screwed in the head, or physically incapacitated, nowhere else. I really don't like this country as you can tell, British don't get enthusiastic about anything other than Football and making vulnerable people's live a living hell.